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Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales
Chevy Aveo U.S. sales, 2010: (For Pontiac G3 lovers, see its total sales run here)
For 2011 sales, see: http://www.aveoforum.com/forum/f107/...-2011-a-11525/
2043 - Jan
2062 - Feb
3979 - Mar
2777 - Apr
3888 - May
5728 - June
4238 - July
4019 - Aug
6552 - Sept
6038 - Oct
3262 - Nov
4037 - Dec
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4052 - avg
48,623 - total
Found some interesting info comparing the car to other subcompacts: http://www.subcompactculture.com/2010/0 ... sales.html
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March 2010 subcompact sales are mixed. However, for the most part, if you were up, you were way up. The Soul was up more than 300% vs. 3/09, the Versa continues to go skyward, too. Aveo and Rio sales are looking strong, as well.
It breaks down Jan-March 2010 subcompact sales in the US by various metrics. Interesting to compare the Aveo to the other cars to see how well/badly various cars are selling and how much they've changed from last year....
Total 2010 sales, Jan - Mar
31,334 ......... Nissan Versa
15,288 ......... Hyundai Accent
12,513 ......... Toyota Yaris
10,292 ......... Honda Fit
9,183 ......... Nissan Cube
8,728 ......... MINI Cooper
8,084 ......... Chevrolet Aveo
6,578 ......... Kia Soul
6,578 ......... Kia Rio
3,160 ......... Suzuki SX4
2,182 ......... Scion xD
1,337 ......... Smart ForTwo
Comparing March 2010 sales vs. March 2009
+309.80% ......... Kia Soul
+105.10% ......... Nissan Versa
+ 67.40% ......... Chevrolet Aveo
+ 50.40% ......... Kia Rio
+ 00.10% ......... MINI Cooper
- 15.30% ......... Honda Fit
- 23.30% ......... Toyota Yaris
- 27.60% ......... Hyundai Accent
- 28.60% ......... Scion xD
- 61.20% ......... Smart ForTwo
- 74.00% ......... Suzuki SX4
- ......... Nissan Cube
What I want to know is ... how the heck is Nissan moving so many Versas!!?
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EDIT: updated with April stats....
Total 2010 sales, Jan - Apr
37,933 ......... Nissan Versa
18,278 ......... Hyundai Accent
16,375 ......... Toyota Yaris
16,074 ......... Kia Soul
14,991 ......... Honda Fit
12,571 ......... MINI Cooper
11,339 ......... Nissan Cube
10,861 ......... Chevrolet Aveo (2777 cars in April)
9,598 ......... Kia Rio
4,141 ......... Suzuki SX4
2,945 ......... Scion xD
2,077 ......... Smart ForTwo
Comparing April 2010 sales vs. April 2009
+61.80% ......... Kia Soul
+43.90% ......... Nissan Versa
+28.70% ......... Chevrolet Aveo
+14.20% ......... Honda Fit
+5.10% ......... MINI Cooper
-5.00% ......... Suzuki SX4
-10.70% ......... Kia Rio
-13.30% ......... Scion xD
-42.40% ......... Hyundai Accent
-49.40% ......... Smart ForTwo
-52.40% ......... Toyota Yaris
-- ......... Nissan Cube
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EDIT: updated with May stats....
Total 2010 sales, Jan - May
47,775 ......... Nissan Versa
22,463 ......... Hyundai Accent
22,208 ......... Kia Soul
20,577 ......... Toyota Yaris
19,374 ......... Honda Fit
14,749 ......... Chevrolet Aveo
13,634 ......... Nissan Cube
11,932 ......... Kia Rio
10,047 ......... MINI Cooper/S
5,026 ......... Suzuki SX4
3,896 ......... MINI Clubman/S
3,860 ......... Scion xD
2,861 ......... MINI Convertible/S
2,772 ......... Smart ForTwo
Comparing May 2010 sales vs. May 2009
+681.30% ......... Nissan Cube
+165.60% ......... Kia Soul
+81.00% ......... Nissan Versa
+64.2 ......... MINI Convertible/S
+52.5% ......... Chevrolet Aveo (3888 vs. 2067)
+28.70% ......... Kia Rio
-2.5% ......... MINI Clubman/S
-9% ......... MINI Cooper/S
-9.40% ......... Hyundai Accent
-18.90% ......... Scion xD
-19.10% ......... Honda Fit
-37.80% ......... Toyota Yaris
-47.00% ......... Suzuki SX4
-62.80% ......... Smart ForTwo
Comparing June 2010 sales vs. June 2009
+158.4% ......... Chevrolet Aveo (5728 vs. 2211)
Comparing July 2010 sales vs. July 2009
-14.6% ......... Chevrolet Aveo (4238 vs. 4961) (percentage decline exaggerated due to Cash for Aveos effect)
Comparing Aug 2010 sales vs. Aug 2009
-68.4% ......... Chevrolet Aveo (12733 vs. 4019) (percentage decline exaggerated due to Cash for Aveos effect)
Comparing Sept 2010 sales vs. Sept 2009
+243.8% ......... Chevrolet Aveo (6552 vs. 1906) (percentage increase exaggerated due to Cash for Aveos effect - sales drop hangover after end of program)
Comparing Oct 2010 sales vs. Oct 2009
+313.8% ......... Chevrolet Aveo (6038 vs. 1459) (percentage increase exaggerated due to Cash for Aveos effect - sales drop hangover after end of program)
Comparing Nov 2010 sales vs. Nov 2009
+47.5% ......... Chevrolet Aveo (3262 vs. 2212)
Comparing Dec 2010 sales vs. Dec 2009
+20.2% ......... Chevrolet Aveo (4037 vs. 3359)
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (through Mar
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What I want to know is ... how the heck is Nissan moving so many Versas!!?
It might depend on where they are being sold. :?: (Personally, I dislike virtually everything about Nissans.)
Interestingly, I see very few Aveos where I live - and when I do see one it often has out-of-state plates on it.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (through Mar
is the nissan versa the only nissan under $20k yet?
i think brand loyalty with the rising prices (not many people i know can actually afford an "average" price new car..
especially when most of them bought their last new car 7-8 years ago when 15k was close to "average"
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (through Mar
I wonder if it could be fleet sales to rental companies too.
I've read that GM / Ford / Chrysler are trying to wean themselves off massive fleet sales. Maybe Nissan's filling the void.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (through Mar
Ah man, the Versa? It's fugly. I would never buy that thing... Also the ratings aren't the greatest.
But advertising helps Nissan. I'm actually getting really tired of seeing their Versa commercials.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (through Mar
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Originally Posted by Bigs
Ah man, the Versa? It's fugly. I would never buy that thing... Also the ratings aren't the greatest..
IMHO all Nissans are not only extremely ugly but also not easy to do routine maintenance on. That's two strikes against them. Maybe poor fuel economy is strike three.
Ever seen a Nissan Cube? It's the most turd-like blob imaginable on 4 wheels! It's at least as ugly as the Pontiac Aztek, which possibly was the ugliest car of it's time.
I'm amazed that anyone would actually buy one... :roll:
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (through Mar
I kind of like the Cube. Funky.
Aerodynamic as the proverbial barn door, but interesting.
Friends of mine just got one (only the 2nd one in this town of 21000), and people actually go up to it and press their faces against the glass to look inside. (When it's parked!)
If it wasn't a CVT, I would have asked them to try it out already. :)
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (through Mar
Is the new sentra under 20k?
But i agree the versa isnt the best lookin nissan they made. The cube is dumb.. why does it have the fur circle on the dash?
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (through Mar
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Originally Posted by reddemonx92
Is the new sentra under 20k?
But i agree the versa isnt the best lookin nissan they made. The cube is dumb.. why does it have the fur circle on the dash?
I don't know if the fur would come stock with the car (maybe they're trying to copy the car from the F&F Tokyo drift... the one that bow-wow was driving... with the furry steering wheel and everything too. :lol:
I'm personally not very impressed with the asymmetrical rear window design (i.e. one of the posts is missing altogether to supposedly provide the driver with a "better" view or at least that's the only reason I could really see behind it). I can only imagine what it would do to a passenger in the rear that's sitting in the corner with no post in case of a rollover collision... :?
I think I checked out versa when I was shopping for a new DD, but the used one I looked at was way overpriced IMO, so I didn't even really consider it.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (Jan - Mar)
The post is actually there in the back corner of the Cube - it's just got glass over it to make it look like a wrap-around window.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (Jan - Mar)
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Originally Posted by MetroMPG
The post is actually there in the back corner of the Cube - it's just got glass over it to make it look like a wrap-around window.
i still prefer smooth lines of the aveo to the square shapes like that... :)
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through April)
Kia Soul sales go insane in April! They drop the Aveo down one notch in the subcompact year-to-date sales race...
One thing you can say is the Aveo is doing reasonably well considering it's in the last year of production of the current model (stale). But they tend to fight staleness by equipping the outgoing model with good equipment / pricing to keep sales going.
April stats....
Total 2010 sales, Jan - Apr
37,933 ......... Nissan Versa
18,278 ......... Hyundai Accent
16,375 ......... Toyota Yaris
16,074 ......... Kia Soul
14,991 ......... Honda Fit
12,571 ......... MINI Cooper
11,339 ......... Nissan Cube
10,861 ......... Chevrolet Aveo
9,598 ......... Kia Rio
4,141 ......... Suzuki SX4
2,945 ......... Scion xD
2,077 ......... Smart ForTwo
Aveo is narrowing the gap catching up to the Nissan Cube. In March the difference was ~1100. It's less than 500 now.
Comparing April 2010 sales vs. April 2009
+61.80% ......... Kia Soul
+43.90% ......... Nissan Versa
+28.70% ......... Chevrolet Aveo
+14.20% ......... Honda Fit
+5.10% ......... MINI Cooper
-5.00% ......... Suzuki SX4
-10.70% ......... Kia Rio
-13.30% ......... Scion xD
-42.40% ......... Hyundai Accent
-49.40% ......... Smart ForTwo
-52.40% ......... Toyota Yaris
-- ......... Nissan Cube
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
GM popped 3888 new Aveos out the showroom doors in May. Well above the monthly 2010 average of 2950 so far, and the 2nd best month this year. But 2010 is shaping up to be the lowest annual sales since the car came out. Looking like around ~35k cars.
For comparison, the average monthly Aveo sales for 2004-2009 is 4941 cars. For 2009, the previous lowest year (44,739 including G3), the monthly average was 3728. (* But 2009 had a pretty huge boost from Cash for Clunkers - it would have been the lowest year without it.)
I'll update post 1 with the comparison to other makes if/when subcompactculture.com posts the info.
Anyway, that's still 3888 more future forum members! :mrgreen:
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
im surprised the versas are selling so good
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
Versas don't look that bad... but their transmission is weird IMO... People look at you funny when you accelerate and your RPMs stay relatively the same... it's almost like driving in one LOOOONG gear... 8)
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
there was one guy that told me to go kill myself after he tried to argue with me that a $9999 Versa was better than a fully loaded Aveo, his car doesnt even have a radio, I still do not understand what he was taling about :|
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
Yet the Versa remains at the top of the 2010 sales list. One day we'll find out why...
Updated post 1 with May stats to compare against the other subcompacts.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
in 2009 i went car shopping for my dad, he drove a s10 4x4 and jumped on board for the cash for clunkers program. im sorry to say the reason why the versa sold so well was because the aveo was horrible compared to the versa. the aveos shifting was sloppy, it was loud, clunky, and was about the same price. the versa was roughly 400 dollars more.
You may be saying, then why are you on here? Cause the 2010 aveo fixes all of that cheap, nostalgic vibe it was giving off.
And the toyota yaris was 2,000 dollars more expensive then the versa.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
what do you mean? the 2009 and 2010 aveo's are exactly the same..
and that price on a versa must be a regional thing they are never within $1000 of each other around here,
but the aveo styling is 10x better than the versa, the yaris is styled well but its different lines, while the versa looks more like a half deflated tit on wheels.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
i had drove a versa once, i dont like it at all, my auto tranny shifts super smooth and i dont hear it at all, it looks soulless, but then again, the guy wnated to kill me because I didnt agree with him :?:
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
Updated post #1.... and wow. GM moved a pile of Aveos in June! 5728 sold ... vs. 2217 cars last June.
That makes last month the best so far this year for Aveo sales. I wonder what's going on?
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
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Originally Posted by MetroMPG
Updated post #1.... and wow. GM moved a pile of Aveos in June! 5728 sold ... vs. 2217 cars last June.
That makes last month the best so far by far for Aveo sales. I wonder what's going on?
Could it be them including the 2009 clearance vehicles in those numbers? Like the heavily discounted fully loaded car a member on here us buying?
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
I'm pretty sure it includes all model years sold. (The sales stats for the Aveo start in the end of 2003, and we know the first model year for the car was '04.)
So I suppose it's theoretically possible that in June they sold brand new 2009, 2010 and 2011 models.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
Updated post#1 with July's sales stats: fewer sold compared to July last year, but still the 2nd best month of 2010.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through May)
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Originally Posted by MetroMPG
Yet the Versa remains at the top of the 2010 sales list. One day we'll find out why...
Updated post 1 with May stats to compare against the other subcompacts.
eww. The Versa is pure crap. Ari's driven both and I was with her when she drove the Versa and I drove the Aveo. Ari said the car felt so detached it was rediculous and described the steering as "Flaccid". She said you'd just kind of turn the wheel and hope the car went in the direction you'd want. By contrast, she described the Aveo as cheeky and fun to drive.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
haha i wish i knew you a few weeks ago, this guy that owned a malibu fought with me because he said the versa was better than the aveo in everyway #-o
he got so mad that he threatened to kill me :P
i think the interior is nice, but the rest of the car is kind of souless in a way, the upper trims have some decent power but its more money, and the base model does not have a radio or A/C
typical american/domestic hater
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
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Originally Posted by thehunterooo
Versa interior... nice
Don't ever use those 3 words in the same sentence again.
though soulless is a good way to describe the Versa. I think all imports are pretty soulless.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
its decent, well its looks good at the very least, never drove/been in one but ive seen many pictures
they seem to have a good amount of problems though
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
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Originally Posted by thehunterooo
its decent, well its looks good at the very least, never drove/been in one but ive seen many pictures
they seem to have a good amount of problems though
the materials are worse than the Aveo. Think a Yugo from 1985. That's the quality as well. Looks are deceiving.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
have you looked at the materials they use in a base line cobalt? raw crappy plastic.. etc. Just like the versa.
its not always that your better, its who you choose to point out that your better than..
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
one thing that gets on my nerves is how you can go on other car fourms and read about how people get a aveo rental and complain about it not being fast or having a cheap feel, i didnt know people expected GM to make a 12k sports car
i guess it is slow when the guy's 350z is in the shop #-o
personally, i think the cobalts interior looks decent, but like any 20k under car, you cant expect anything amazing, the 2005 cobalt we had a okay interior, though the plastic is crap lol
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
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Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
have you looked at the materials they use in a base line cobalt? raw crappy plastic.. etc. Just like the versa.
its not always that your better, its who you choose to point out that your better than..
I don't give the Cobalt grief about the interior quality because it at least has performance to it's name. Something the Versa can't claim.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
They say God help Aveo when it's being cross shopped against Fiesta... they look very competitive to me. Festiva's official year model is 2011, so is the new Aveo's, if I read the articles right...
Compare for yourself.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
they compare it to everything about everything and do not mention a price anywhere, i love reading reviews because i can gauge how biased/racist car fourms/sites are based on the reveiw of an Aveo, if it says its the worst car ever than I lose all creditabilty to the site but if it offers a good insight into it then its alright, i cant figure out how people need so much power on the road, i end up tailgating people all the time, and i merge onto the highway at well over 80mph easily, and the reliabilty crap? All cars have problems but its said the aveo will break down every 5000 miles or so, mine has never gave me a problem crossing over in 50,000 miles
the versa is alright, i dont like the styling but i would own one if i had to, but damn, that versa fourm is nasty
the new aveo is the top car in the segment if they do it right, even the criuse can do well in the next segment up, i hope they find success, I really thought about getting the new aveo when the time comes lol
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
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Originally Posted by thehunterooo
they compare it to everything about everything and do not mention a price anywhere, i love reading reviews because i can gauge how biased/racist car fourms/sites are based on the reveiw of an Aveo, if it says its the worst car ever than I lose all creditabilty to the site but if it offers a good insight into it then its alright, i cant figure out how people need so much power on the road, i end up tailgating people all the time, and i merge onto the highway at well over 80mph easily, and the reliabilty crap? All cars have problems but its said the aveo will break down every 5000 miles or so, mine has never gave me a problem crossing over in 50,000 miles
Apparently the bias stems from the reputation the early Aveos had. Once any product gets a bad rep it's hard to overcome - no matter how much the manufacturer later improves the product. That's understandable, as all bias has some relation to past experiences. But bias can become apparent if the review is just a reworking of a previous review. At that point it isn't objective. It's 'tarring with the same old brush' that was used on the earlier versions.
Also if the Aveo is fully equipped it brings the price close to what other comparable Asian models sell for - again that can be a legitimate comparison. But if the other makers don't offer a stripped down, less costly version of their model, that isn't taken into account. And neither are the discounts that might apply on an Aveo due to a larger unsold inventory.
When I bought my '09 I DID compare it to the Toyota Yaris and the Honda Fit. The Yaris had the same level of interior quality - but the design was idiotic. The Fit had other features or aspects that I didn't like or want. But the Aveo has a stainless exhaust, and the others don't. No one knows that because as a selling point it's not 'sexy' and GM's marketing doesn't sell cars that way. Also with the Aveo I was able to find one equipped exactly as I wanted it at a good discount.
The advantage these other brands have is that the Japs have been building quality cars longer than Daewoo has, thus their reputation has been consistently better. Also they apparently deliver much better MPG in city driving. But this is my dissatisfaction with GM: Somebody fudged those EPA numbers to their advantage, which is misleading to the prospective buyer. There is no way you can know with complete certainty what MPG you will get until you actually buy the vehicle. If you buy an Aveo for local use and expect it to be the same as the other similar Asian models, you are in for a disappointment - for that's where it really falls short of the others.
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
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Originally Posted by Thymeclock
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Originally Posted by thehunterooo
they compare it to everything about everything and do not mention a price anywhere, i love reading reviews because i can gauge how biased/racist car fourms/sites are based on the reveiw of an Aveo, if it says its the worst car ever than I lose all creditabilty to the site but if it offers a good insight into it then its alright, i cant figure out how people need so much power on the road, i end up tailgating people all the time, and i merge onto the highway at well over 80mph easily, and the reliabilty crap? All cars have problems but its said the aveo will break down every 5000 miles or so, mine has never gave me a problem crossing over in 50,000 miles
Apparently the bias stems from the reputation the early Aveos had. Once any product gets a bad rep it's hard to overcome - no matter how much the manufacturer later improves the product. That's understandable, as all bias has some relation to past experiences. But bias can become apparent if the review is just a reworking of a previous review. At that point it isn't objective. It's 'tarring with the same old brush' that was used on the earlier versions.
Also if the Aveo is fully equipped it brings the price close to what other comparable Asian models sell for - again that can be a legitimate comparison. But if the other makers don't offer a stripped down, less costly version of their model, that isn't taken into account. And neither are the discounts that might apply on an Aveo due to a larger unsold inventory.
When I bought my '09 I DID compare it to the Toyota Yaris and the Honda Fit. The Yaris had the same level of interior quality - but the design was idiotic. The Fit had other features or aspects that I didn't like or want. But the Aveo has a stainless exhaust, and the others don't. No one knows that because as a selling point it's not 'sexy' and GM's marketing doesn't sell cars that way. Also with the Aveo I was able to find one equipped exactly as I wanted it at a good discount.
The advantage these other brands have is that the Japs have been building quality cars longer than Daewoo has, thus their reputation has been consistently better. Also they apparently deliver much better MPG in city driving. But this is my dissatisfaction with GM: Somebody fudged those EPA numbers to their advantage, which is misleading to the prospective buyer. There is no way you can know with complete certainty what MPG you will get until you actually buy the vehicle. If you buy an Aveo for local use and expect it to be the same as the other similar Asian models, you are in for a disappointment - for that's where it really falls short of the others.
good points, but i think the mpg shortfall is made up if you were to buy a stripped down verison of an aveo, saving thousands over anything else, plus any interest you would pay on the larger amount
for me, i could care less about mpg, i just want to drive lol
i still dont get the underpowered statements, or the fact that 90% of fit, versa and yaris owners have never driven the aveo but call it crap no matter what, or why people rent it and expect it to be a sports car, I hate that the most lol
never really heard much about the older aveos thoug, but i would assume it would be bad anyways because its a "domestic"...in that case it will never have a chance
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
i just stopped and looked at the fiesta.. cheapest on on the lost was 17k.. most expensive was 23k.. i could buy a cobalt ss for that.
That got me to read the list of cars in the sales figures above, how many of those are actually available under 13k? 14k?
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Re: Aveo vs. other subcompacts: U.S. 2010 sales (January through July)
damn, that is a lot, but i really am not surprised, the focus should be at 24,000 starting?