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lol this makes me feel good as this scrub on youtube said chevy would never make a car like this and said american cars suck, well, that pussy prius and gay insight dont touch this!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090811/ap_ ... lt_mileage
lol this makes me feel good as this scrub on youtube said chevy would never make a car like this and said american cars suck, well, that pussy prius and gay insight dont touch this!!!
40K for a volt
15K for a non-hybrid civic (or Aveo)
25K difference
volt - 12K miles/yr @150 mpg = 80 gallons x 3 dollars = 240/yr fuel cost
civic (aveo) 12K miles/yr @30mpg = 400 gallons x 3 dollars = 1200/yr fuel cost
960/yr difference (savings in fuel)
25K divided by 960 = 26 years to break even.
Even if you double the 150 mpg to 300 mpg, it will still be 21 years to break even
agreed, but there are two types of people who shop for cars based on fuel economy. 1. Those who want good fuel economy, and 2. those who want to feel good about themselves because they think they are helping the environment. The second group would be the ones who would buy the volt, instead of a similarly price SUV, then the can feel good about themselves as the pull into their starbucks. nevermind the fact that the electricity used to charge the car came from coal. and the batteries will need replaced every 3-5 years creating a toxic landfill.Originally Posted by AveoRob
"common" people like us while we would like 150mpg too, see the break down in numbers and realized its not better for "us" (your figures don't even account for the added home electric bill to charge the car at night, like they recommend). We also know the practicality of owning a more "disposable" but more efficient car.
Even at 1/2 the price, it'd still take 10 years to recover. I wonder how many people don't realise (or don't want to) these facts? They think they're doing good for the environment, but never follow the energy trail. Put a few million Aveo's on the road and see our need for foreign oil drop considerably.
Jim
but its also about stature. if an aveo cost $40k, then those yuppie assholes would drive them proudly.
but keeping up with the jones' means you need to be a lemming and drive something as or more expensive as everyone else in the culdesac.
You also need to factor in economic factors. Battery developments and wide spread adoption will drive the price of the volt down for sure, but in the meantime, you have to remember that with new technologies come a higher price.
I leased Pontiac Wave from September 2006 to August 2011.
+1 to all your points. They way I see it, I drive a fairly decent fuel-efficient car and I don't drive much. I'll have less than 9K buy the time my aveo is a year old.
Farthest North Aveo: Fairbanks, Alaska
As much as I make that same comparison myself, it isnt fair in this case. If you were comparing Camry to Camry hybrid, that would make sense. The Volt and the Aveo are 2 completely different cars with completely different options and standard features.
Also, with the volt, it will go 40miles solely on an electric charge. So if you dont commute a far way, you could, in theory, never need gas for it. People that buy hybrids dont do it to save money. They do it for the fact it consumes less oil.
Last point. Wait for it to come out and look at the federal rebates that will come with the car. They are talking $7500 so far. Early hybrid adopters saved a bunch as well.
**** all that. lets all replace the gas tank space with several hydrogen water cell's. only takes 6 to power the car, and they can be built at home. **** what the companies have to give us! VIVA LA REVOLUTION!! or we tame and saddle tree's......
lol you know when the ricer hybrids came out, they were not cheap either
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