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Integra build (de-rice)
ok so as some of you may know i moved from hamilton On, Canada to Rochester NY for school. Any ways my class mate from Cali is also new to the city, and was lookinging for a car for around 1000$ to last him 1 year because he has old camry in cali thats worth less then the price to ship in from cali to NY. Me being a car nut i inved him out last sunday night to the local tuner meet/ street racing hangout. after looking at dif cars he said he would love to get in to the tuner scene. so what i did was find him a riced out 94 acura integra RS with a 5 speed and b18b1 engine with 233 000 miles for 1300$. so now we are gona put 700$ in to it and drive the **** out of it.
he can't drive stick, knows nothing about cars, and is not mechanicly skilled. so i will be doing most of the work. but here is the catch when he leaves for cali next year im geting his car for around 500$ depanding how much he invests in to it and in what condition it is when time comes. the car has an ugly front body kit, **** paint job with no clear coat, white graphics and stupied stickers, painted interiour pieces in white, no cd player, short ram intake, header, and full brand new aftermarket exhaust.
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so i will be de-ricing this baby, any sugestions
PS i still have my aveo and will keep it
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Re: Integra build (de-rice)
you paid $1300 dollars for that?!?
hit up a junk yard for the stock body pieces, clean the crap out of the interior, and go through all the other work the previous owner did. check the brakes etc..
then buy a used suspension, wheels and tires off ebay, or craigslist.
then spend the rest fixing all that crappy bodywork and go get a cheap maaco paint job to seal the work until you can get it redone when you own it.
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Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
you paid $1300 dollars for that?!?
hit up a junk yard for the stock body pieces, clean the crap out of the interior, and go through all the other work the previous owner did. check the brakes etc..
then buy a used suspension, wheels and tires off ebay, or craigslist.
then spend the rest fixing all that crappy bodywork and go get a cheap maaco paint job to seal the work until you can get it redone when you own it.
1300 bad or good?
the tires are brand new and we will be gutting the interiour and puting in 2 racing seats.
i hate fixing thing after ricers did em
first thing we did was rip off all the stikers and graphics, and gutted the inside
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the struts that hold up the hatch are dead
now for the rust, its real bad, and was repaired with ducktape and bondo (i don't know how bad it is untill i rip all that crap out)
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Re: Integra build (de-rice)
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Originally Posted by deniswhite1
1300 bad or good?
i don't think i can answer that positively, if there are alot, and i mean a lot of mechanical +++s then maybe that car is worth 1300.. but with that rust... was it 1300 canadian?
i see an exhaust and maybe a header... anything else?
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sounds like my kind of project... Its fun undoing someone elses work, watch out for random wires and nice jimmy rigged jobs. I love finding those!!! :roll:
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Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
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Originally Posted by deniswhite1
1300 bad or good?
i don't think i can answer that positively, if there are alot, and i mean a lot of mechanical +++s then maybe that car is worth 1300.. but with that rust... was it 1300 canadian?
i see an exhaust and maybe a header... anything else?
no its 1300 US dollars :oops: , the engine is stock with intake and header plus full exhaust
i test drove it and it pulls hard compared to my aveo
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but you are far from me, lol
found oem front bumper for 20$
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That thing is f-ing hideous, but it has potential. It needs so much body work it's not even funny...for what you paid for it and how much your planning on putting into it I would just knock out all the rust and primer the area to keep it away and bondo it best you can. and Don't use duct tape lol. It's already looking better.
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I would never buy a JDM fag car, and not one where a kid beat on it anyways. You could have found a nice low milage lanos for the same price of less. Guess its good cheap transportation though, just put a paper bag on your head. Does it fart loud?
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Originally Posted by thehunterooo
I would never buy a JDM fag car, and not one where a kid beat on it anyways. You could have found a nice low milage lanos for the same price of less. Guess its good cheap transportation though, just put a paper bag on your head. Does it fart loud?
My friend wanted A tuner car IE Honda/acura, lanos is far from tuner and seeing how it's worse then aveo so no daewoo cars. Plus you can't beat a b18b1 reliability power handling and parts access. The integra is a great platform this one is just rusted and needs a **** load of work
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Originally Posted by deniswhite1
but you are far from me, lol
found oem front bumper for 20$
im only 4 hours away.. ive driven further than that for parts..
but for $20 you beat the deal..
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Next on the to do list is to fix that exhaust. When I drove the car I though to my self is this thing running a streigh pipe, but the exhaust seems fine. Took a closer look and the from what I can see with out geting under the car the past owner put spacers on the exhast bolts between the header and the rest of the exhaust lmfao creating a huge leak
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I don't know how much money you were perhaps planning on putting into it but consider that it might be a lost cause... It might be depending on what you plan on doing with it...
1: Eventual show car - give up now, it's old, too many miles, soooooo much work needed to get done, you might as well get a new car
2: Drag/track car - assuming the engine, transmission, suspension, electronics and plumbing were updated, replaced, de-rusted, fixed or a combination of those, you could probably get it done, if you had the money for it... In which case again you might have a better chance just getting a car in better condition. Don't forget the frame is so rusty it's actually starting to disintegrate. There's a little tip I know when looking into a used car: if there's rust on the car you can see, chances are theres much more rust in places you can't see. If I was a tech inspector at a racetrack I'd DQ you in a heartbeat... Again get a new car.
3: Daily driver - if it got to 233k miles or whatever and still drives with no big issues, it should last a bit longer, but don't expect it to go peacefully, my mom's Subaru went on for about 200k miles and during a hot day on a freeway, the transmission started leaking and siezed up, it destroyed the transmission's guts, the crankshaft, some cylinder heads and most of the valves... It was quoted $6k for a new engine and tranny - she traded it for $1500 and got a nice used car.
Anyway, you still have alot of work to do, like body work and de-rusting some stuff, but you could drive it for a bit more. The bottom line though again is, get a better car, you got $1300 worth of not much to drive...
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Hey!
1. If you want to know the ins and outs of local junk yards...PM me.
2. Check out the local SCCA Solo II meets at RIT on some Sundays.. you'll see what to do with the car! http://www.flr-scca.com/solo/schedule.html
3..looks to have all the typical rusty crust cars get around here.
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Originally Posted by g0ast
I don't know how much money you were perhaps planning on putting into it but consider that it might be a lost cause... It might be depending on what you plan on doing with it...
1: Eventual show car - give up now, it's old, too many miles, soooooo much work needed to get done, you might as well get a new car
2: Drag/track car - assuming the engine, transmission, suspension, electronics and plumbing were updated, replaced, de-rusted, fixed or a combination of those, you could probably get it done, if you had the money for it... In which case again you might have a better chance just getting a car in better condition. Don't forget the frame is so rusty it's actually starting to disintegrate. There's a little tip I know when looking into a used car: if there's rust on the car you can see, chances are theres much more rust in places you can't see. If I was a tech inspector at a racetrack I'd DQ you in a heartbeat... Again get a new car.
3: Daily driver - if it got to 233k miles or whatever and still drives with no big issues, it should last a bit longer, but don't expect it to go peacefully, my mom's Subaru went on for about 200k miles and during a hot day on a freeway, the transmission started leaking and siezed up, it destroyed the transmission's guts, the crankshaft, some cylinder heads and most of the valves... It was quoted $6k for a new engine and tranny - she traded it for $1500 and got a nice used car.
Anyway, you still have alot of work to do, like body work and de-rusting some stuff, but you could drive it for a bit more. The bottom line though again is, get a better car, you got $1300 worth of not much to drive...
from what i can tell the engine is mint. was rebuilt, and starts on a first click every time which is better then what my aveo's motor does with 28 000 miles. worst case he will drive it the way it is with minor repairs, and i will junk the body and put the engine and trans in to an eg hatch shell next year
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Originally Posted by deniswhite1
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3: Daily driver - if it got to 233k miles or whatever and still drives with no big issues, it should last a bit longer, but don't expect it to go peacefully
from what i can tell the engine is mint. was rebuilt, and starts on a first click every time which is better then what my aveo's motor does with 28 000 miles. worst case he will drive it the way it is with minor repairs, and i will junk the body and put the engine and trans in to an eg hatch shell next year
i had a chevette with 600k miles on it, with 2 rebuilds to the engine all the part were still in spec both times, but seepage and head gasket every 200k. acura engines are supposed to be very reliable if they stay stock..
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3: Daily driver - if it got to 233k miles or whatever and still drives with no big issues, it should last a bit longer, but don't expect it to go peacefully
from what i can tell the engine is mint. was rebuilt, and starts on a first click every time which is better then what my aveo's motor does with 28 000 miles. worst case he will drive it the way it is with minor repairs, and i will junk the body and put the engine and trans in to an eg hatch shell next year
i had a chevette with 600k miles on it, with 2 rebuilds to the engine all the part were still in spec both times, but seepage and head gasket every 200k. acura engines are supposed to be very reliable if they stay stock..
We might do a compression test later on in the build
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u should do a comp test now...
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u should do a comp test now...
we will as soon as the car is registered, i drove it and it pulls hard
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Agreed, I'd just junk that body, an EG hatch is lighter anyways. Check w/ your local junk yard and see if you can trade the car for a civic that needs less work and just swap that motor. If you can find one that's been wrecked in the front w/ a straight frame you've got all kinds of possibilitlies: Z3 Fenders w/ JDM sI clip would only run you about a grand...less if you find it used. Check craigslist.
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Originally Posted by deniswhite1
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u should do a comp test now...
we will as soon as the car is registered, i drove it and it pulls hard
it doesnt have to be registered to do a comp test...
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u should do a comp test now...
we will as soon as the car is registered, i drove it and it pulls hard
it doesnt have to be registered to do a comp test...
i can't drive it to the shop lol
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just go get the tool yourself, its like 30 or 40$ and you can use it later, just sayin
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Originally Posted by mikedudley17
just go get the tool yourself, its like 30 or 40$ and you can use it later, just sayin
didn't think of that, will do
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I have had a little experience with rust situations like that... my last project car was a 92 geo metro convertible(yeah, yeah I keep going on about it) bought it for $1000 with rusty rocker panels, though not quite as bad as yours. A local welder who worked for $40 an hour patched them up butt good in 4 hours, and after a maaco paint job it looked great, for a geo anyway.
The biggest thing you need to worry about is whether the rust has affected the unibody, structurally. If yes, then welding on sheet metal is the only answer. If no, then fiberglass and bondo is an option, if you really know what you're doing. Try asking a body shop what would be best, them ask a local welder about his rates. It should work out okay..
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I have had a little experience with rust situations like that... my last project car was a 92 geo metro convertible(yeah, yeah I keep going on about it) bought it for $1000 with rusty rocker panels, though not quite as bad as yours. A local welder who worked for $40 an hour patched them up butt good in 4 hours, and after a maaco paint job it looked great, for a geo anyway.
The biggest thing you need to worry about is whether the rust has affected the unibody, structurally. If yes, then welding on sheet metal is the only answer. If no, then fiberglass and bondo is an option, if you really know what you're doing. Try asking a body shop what would be best, them ask a local welder about his rates. It should work out okay..
a geo.............. :?:
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He's got a thing for geo's hunter lol.
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The car is finaly road legal, work will start next week
we went out tonight to teach the my buddy (owner) how to drive stick, and i have to say out of all people he is the most hopeless. stalled 12 times in 2 hours, and at the end we lost power steering, so i said thats it for the night.
now on top of everything we have no PS
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He's got a thing for geo's hunter lol.
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no pics as of yet caz my buddy still can't learn to drive stick, he stalls it, or peals out from the stop, and when he shifts gears he looks at the shifter and still ends up in 4th insted of 2nd :(
i did get to do a compression test on the car, and got 120, 120, 115, and 120. now keep in ming this b18b1 LS got 233 000 miles on it.
is that healthy compression?
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yeah for 200k plus miles, but I would still swap the engine
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Originally Posted by thehunterooo
yeah for 200k plus miles, but I would still swap the engine
in to another car or dif engine in to this POS?
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yeah for 200k plus miles, but I would still swap the engine
in to another car or dif engine in to this POS?
If hes keeping the car, then put a new engine in it. I dont know why he would buy it if he wasnt gonna keep it in the first place
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yeah for 200k plus miles, but I would still swap the engine
in to another car or dif engine in to this POS?
If hes keeping the car, then put a new engine in it. I dont know why he would buy it if he wasnt gonna keep it in the first place
the car is only to get around for 1 year while he is in school in NY, when he leaves for LA he will ether sell it to me, or part it out and junk it. I don't want this teg caz it's too far gone, but I'm considering geting the engine to swap in to a Honda shell I will be geting next year to build as a track toy. I would ofcourse rebuild the b18b1 from the ground up to handle 15 psi
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yeah, if you rebuild it and resurface the head, then it will be good to go, but will be be cheaper and easier to swap it out I think
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If you get a honda shell and plan on building the motor for it just go for a K20 swap. It is worth every penny. With a properly built K20 you wont even need boost lol.
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Originally Posted by Wolfman AK907
If you get a honda shell and plan on building the motor for it just go for a K20 swap. It is worth every penny. With a properly built K20 you wont even need boost lol.
k20 is way to expansive, i have my heart set on b18 with 15psi
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Check out some JDM H23 DOHC Prelude swaps, they're pretty quick. A fully built k20 ready to drop in shouldn't cost more than 4500 bucks. If you're looking for a serious track car. If you just ordered the block and built it all yourself you could have a pretty sick motor for about half that.
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