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I cant stand these people ( I laugh at my friend when his civic doesnt start at school)
I love when they call aveos ''imposters'' of the fit.
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I cant stand these people ( I laugh at my friend when his civic doesnt start at school)
I love when they call aveos ''imposters'' of the fit.
have you seen how much body roll an Aveo has? I can understand parts of his 'point' but such generalizations are uncalled for. For example, you take and aveo and a fit and while the fit may look better doing it, they both have cornering speeds within a few MPH. I have driven 7 different cars at Willow Springs and all of them take turn two between 80-83... well faster going in or exiting, but the sustained speed is about 81-83, this is my old 93 Subaru, 3 other subarus varying from stock 09WRX, 04 WRX Wagon, and an 02 Bugeye, a Mazdaspeed Protege, my daewoo lanos even.
That said on turn 8 it's a high speed, 120 in the Mazda, 95 in the aveo as it simply would not accelerate anymore. When doing passing drills, the guy in the other car told me the entire rear was just moving back and forth... not the body, but the rear torsion beam was moving side to side.. guess they should have installed a panhard bar.
Overall, the suspension is crap on the aveo, the body is soft and getting front struts... well, can we even do that yet? That being said, I didn't buy this car to do track events and it's a lot of fun around town.
yeah I wasnt trying to vouch for the aveo, though. I like the handling compared to my old daewoo lanos, escort and pt crusier. I just dont like honda owners's attitudes thinking that they are the **** because they got them some JDM headlights. The aveo is a good daily driver and the insurance is cheap, not much of a racing machine out if the box.
sounds like a fit too...Quote:
Originally Posted by thehunterooo
Trying to compare a Fit with an Aveo isn't a worthwhile comparison.
Aveo Base Price: $12,685
You shouldn't have to pay much more dealer invoice for an Aveo though ($11,500). I paid $10,700 for my 2007 LS sedan, which included all taxes and dealer fees.
Fit base price: $14,750.
And you're not going to get any discounts at all. I haven't seen any with an MSRP under $16,500. And you're going to get tagged with all the dealer fees they want.
Thats between a 30-50% price difference between the two. Just because the two look the same, doesn't mean that they compete with each other. A more accurate comparison would be between the Saturn Astra and the Fit.
The Fit is a much better car according to all the reviews, but it should be because it is a more expensive car.
The true competitors to the Aveo are the Yaris, Versa, Accent, and Rio (am I forgetting any?)
Idk, I can't argue the Fit is a great car but the attitude is a little uncalled for. But everyone today is brand-loyal. I actually like hondas but only for their aftermarket cababilities. I think the Fit is more accurately compared to the Kia Soul or a Prius. I do not like the Yaris, it was not comfortable and the new aveo had a bit more power out of the box and for the price I got more options on my 09 aveo as a base model yaris.
i use to post on fit freaks...but there are a lot of dbags. i am tempted to post that we can't help that some aveo drivers are retarded. i think my aveo corners rather well with just lowering springs...and i am pretty sure the aveo/kalos has been around longer than the fit...all the japanese have ever done is taken something someone else has done and make it better, therefore its easier to win a competition when you've already copied the competition's stuff as a base platform
i cant say i know which is better since i have only owned the aveo, but i have beaten the crap out of my aveo (2004 hatch) at times and its taken its fair share of abuse from the road and i have not had a single problem with the car. People always complain about the gas mileage, but i can get 34 mpg when i drive the car properly. They always seem to try and compare the price but I have no clue where they get their numbers from but ive never heard of any one getting a fit under msrp yet aveo owners can get aveos under ten grand.....
100% agreed aveosam
the fit guys are right, the aveo is a daewoo with the chevy bowtie slapped on it :roll:
as for the "made in china" there are a lot of parts in the car that are made in china, 1 guy said the aveo reminds him of a hugo :lol: i think the smart car reminds me of the hugo
Im not going to argue that the Fit is not better than the Aveo in any aspect (handling, power, build quality). but I do find it idiotic to say that another vehicle is crap based on what you observed another driver do.
I have out handled/ out "balled" driver's of Civics, a lancer, a G35, and yes even a Fit to name a few, through turns. Ive even seen more than a few instances of drivers loosing control of their vehicles in seemingly impossible situations, like striaght roads. But im not going to make a judgement about those vehicles. Because often the case i know for a fact they could outshine the Aveo in handing. Its about the driver's skill or lack of guts to be willing to push their car harder.
Im not saying I am a highly skilled driver, Im just saying that to brag about observations of that one has seen on the open road of other driver's behavior is pointless.
Also, a few point out that they have driven a friend or acquaintance's vehicle, I dont see that as a good measurement of capability. Ive driven vehicles that belong to friend's of mine and I didnt push them any where near how I drive my own car at times or in daily situations. I wouldnt even be able to drive them long enough to get accustomed enough to even attempt anything.
I'm not defending anyone here but for the price and the way the Aveo has treated me I cant complain. Its not a road racer, nor a Ferarri. Its not the best handling car in the world, nor the worst. Its my commuter car and I'm quite fond of it. I'd still buy another one! He didnt have to cop that attitude.
That GSR wasn't too ricey...
lol that was funny!
Wow, i almost posted myself but said its not worth it lol
Id love just to come up to one of their meets and say who wants to go? Yeah these cars are made in Korea by Daewoo which IS cheap we all know it, too bad they dont know how much power the engines in these cars can make and where they come from (Opel/Vauxhall) How much power can their little 1.5 vtec make, even modded, compared to a tuned 1.6?
Lotus tested the 1.6 on their bench at 160ish hp if i remember the numbers, with basically only retuning it.
The 2.0 i put in with 8 psi of boost can make well over 200hp with stock internals. Stock vs stock, yes i would agree that the Fit is a very well balanced car. But with a few mods the Aveo most definitely can come out the winner.
lol and you wont be a ricer :0
I dont see myself as beeing a ricer, ffs i modded an Aveo, but thats not the point, the point is ive taken a car NO ONE would even dare touch and made it into something truely unique.
I dont give a damn if the guy besides me runs 10 seconds or if i get negative comments on my ride, i cant please everyone's tastes. But you sure as hell wont find an Aveo like mine laying around like you would if i had a honda.
lol i agree 100%
look on cardomain, theres like 366 aveos comapred to tens of thousands of hondas, so every aveo with an intake is special in my eyes :P
you got one of the most unique aveos overall with that swap (and it runs!)
honda boys are so ununique
thats why im dumping over 10-15k in my car over the next 4 years
Yeah, this winter im gonna try to get parts together for a turbo kit ready to install when the snow goes next spring.
My crank seals have now been replaced (dealer says the original crank seals had problems, and they came out with a new type of seal) Also changed the timing belt while doing it.
I came up with a better idea to fix my air intake other then an aluminium dryer hose lol, ill see if i can find what i need to make it work.
yeah im going to start on my turbo in 2 years or so, i wanna do the following first
1. Paintjob and cf hood
2. Strutbar
3. New springs
4. Headers
5. Replace timing belt
6. CAI
7. New sound system
and a ton of more **** lol
hopefully that guy from daftart makes some cool stuff soon
4 and 7 would be pointless for a turbo..
ima sell them when i get turbo, but i want something for now, plus i could possibly mod the new headers at a shop for a turbo setup
i still have to wait a couple of years so i can get another car or bike for when i do work on the aveo
between a full time job and full time college, my plate is full lol, but ima wait a 2 years or so (ima buy a cheap miata while the aveo is being worked on)
my girlfriend just bought an 09 Honda Fit LX (with no plans for mods of course) It has a similar feel to the aveo. I haven't pushed it though. It gets much better millage and much more comfortable. and handles better. all that being said the swift would have been her second choice. other cars she drove before buying was a suzuki sx4, (to big for her) kia rio5 witch really felt like **** and lacked pickup power. and a hyundai accent hatchback with more 4 door avablible that was out the question. yaris was ruled out because of bad ratings/reviews. versssa was ruled out because of the CVT being the only available automatic transmission in the trim she liked (expensive if needs servicing) and she knew all about the aveo/wave/swift because of me having one and her second choice without even driving it would have been the swift. she loved the fit though, and so do I, truly a great car especially the new 09 generation.
too bad she bought a honda, too bad
indeed a sad day :cry:
You are rediculous hunter. There is nothing wrong with hondas. You just hate the ricers who think their **** is the best. I love hondas, but the Fit is more expensive than the aveo.
its not just rice, its people even with a stock honda saying they are better than everyone else
i dont hate honda, its the people who i end up disliking
After a while i seen that most people with hondas are stuck up with their beloved v-tec, and that ive only met 1 person so far that is not this way whom has a honda, whom i respect greatly
The 2ZZ-GE engine from Toyota with the same basic technology as the vtec engines from Honda (meaning the change to highlift cams at a certain rpm) imo is a much better engine then any vtec motor from honda.
This 1.8L engine can me found in a multitude of vehicules, including some Lotus cars. I would take a 2zz motor over any vtec engine anyday.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_ZZ_engine
you wouldnt want to tell that to honda boys, they would think you were crazy :P
we need to have an aveo meet lol, maybe red will come and drive the 2 miles to the meet:D
btw why bring back the dead?
I have nothing against Hondas. I've had a few when I was in my 20's and they all had 4 round headlights in front. Mostly old Accords, sedans and hatchbacks. However it always seemed they would rust to death before the engines blew.
This post is on FIRE! I totally understand the hate, too many DBAGS out there... Btw, I just got a VERSA for my wife, worked the dealer to death and got it way under the $15200 msrp, Honda would not deal, Toyota would, but I can't stand the center mounted dash of the Yaris, I did not wanted another Aveo(all tho I've seen some modified sedans that are just beautiful), Kia was ugly, Mitsubishy hard to find service dealers and VW parts too expensive. The Versa is great, we love it, a better car in every aspect and if you don't believe go test drive one, I got the S model with the 1.8 and 6 speed manual, its quick! FUNNY thing is...:D my Aveo gets the performance and body mods! My Aveo gets washed and waxed more often! My Aveo sleep in the garage way more often! I wonder why? Kind like that old pair of boots, its beat down and worn but it just fit right, so u keep it by the bed while the new shoes stay forgoten somewhere in ur closet! LMAOL
has no speed governor (drag), but i do not know of an rpm limiter, i have gone up to 6500 once or twice, didnt seem like it was going to cut out
i had a versa owner say they wanted to kill me if that counts for anything:)
i always do seem to have a mob after me...
NYChevoo is starting to wonder that same thing too!