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? I want to do this MOD for my aveo, but I was wondering how long the whole process took? Not sure if I should just buy an extra set of stock headlights and just work on them or if the project can be done in one day. Attachment 4590Attachment 4591
I also wanted to know if you guys had any suggestions on the chrome trim around the grill. I was leaning towards it being black. Thoughts? Suggestions? Thanks!
Could possibly be done in a day, but having an extra set would provide a comfort zone against breaking them.
I was leaning in that direction. Now I just have to find some. I want them now lol I wanted to start as soon as possible.
EBay would be quickest if the store you use has some delivery options. Might cost more but speed can be expensive. Otherwise start shopping the scrap yards in your area.
open them up is easy, sealing them back is very challenging,
i have redone it 2 times,
now hope it doest leak anymore,,,,
1 day is probably not enough.... (for me)
what kind of glue will you use when sealing the headlights, and can they be removed later on ?
i have removed all the factory glue from the headlights, but some say i should leave the stock glue on ?
What was the most challenging part for you? getting the fit? so you had leakage the first few times?
As for the glue, I haven't figured that out yet. I'm reading a few other posts in the forum to find out what's worked best so far. I found a few good articles online for other vehicles that had great instructions/material lists as well, so between everything I'm sure I'll figure it out.
My biggest concern is also the resealing....dont want any leaks.
I'll let you know if I hear anything about a good glue.
-Cathryn
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Originally Posted by PERFECT_ESL
Yeah, EBay has been the cheapest by far so far. For some reason I can't find many 2011 aveo5 headlights online. I'm guessing cause the models so new. Anyway, I'll keep looking for now :-/
-Cathryn
i did mine start to finish in about 3 hours. It can be done in an evening, if you just go do it.
Glue is going to be the make or break of this mod it seems. I will have to go look at glued myself now.
I was reading another set of instructions for a different vehicle but doing the same mod and it said "All weather outdoor clear silicone sealant" not sure if that helps :rolleyes:
Not sure if it would hold up to the heat of an HID kit either. But if so that might be a very good bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdskns56
if it cant take the heat of the hid, it wont be able to take the heat generated by the engine and the hot weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by daug1502
today is rainning,,, mine has no leak YET...
i used heated glue . .. like a pack of plastic bars,, and put it into the heat gun, and it turns to liquid , that kind,
So aveogyrl did an awesome write up of this mod. Best in my oppinion I've seen on the site. Here's the link below. It doesn't discuss your HID's though...I've been looking around, but nothing specific about how best to seal it up. I did read that a few people disliked the silicone sealant in general because it makes it even more difficult to seperate the unit if you needed to do it again. One thing I read that I really liked and it makes total sense was that as you know you use the oven to heat it and loosen the adhesive, but once the project is done, you put it BACK in the oven and this will soften up the remaining factory glue again and that plus whatever sealant we end up choosing should do the trick. Great idea! Also the second link I added here is for this mod on a different vehicle. He goes into pretty good detail and he used glad press-and-seal in it! Not sure if any of this will help you since your looking on info on the HID's, but they both go into pretty good detail on the process itself.
-Cathryn
http://www.aveoforum.com/forum/f83/p...tml#post155290
VWVortex.com - DIY Joey Mod PROPER MASKING AND PAINTING!
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Originally Posted by daug1502
vw is where the term "joey mod" came from, the person credited for doing it first was named joey.
most silicones have temp specs that would outlast the housing.
Good info. I haven't really seen many people talk about how much adhesive to apply to reseal it, mostly just seeing one tube of the sealer as a material listed. I assume it's different in each case, but any input's helpful.
Thanks!
Cathryn
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Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
when i did mine, i just left all the glue in from the factory, when i pulled the pieces apart i "smeared" the original glue back where it belonged. Then after i put it together i mask taped the faces of the lens etc, i laid a ribbon of clear rtv into the seam, smeared it in, and untaped. have had no leaks, and i believe it would come back apart again.
That's great. I can imagine the affect the smearing has...probably will create a much cleaner surface to reattach to. Gonna try it this weekend. Thanks!
-Cathryn
Hey Daug152,
I was looking at different clear silicone sealants and I found one at advanced autoparts. The item description states that it can handle temperatures ranging from -75°F to 400°F. I don't know anything at all about HID's so if you know how hot they get, that should answer your question as to whether or not it's a good sealant in your case. Good luck!
Here's the link:
Buy Permatex Clear RTV Silicone Adhesive Sealant 85913 at Advance Auto Parts
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Originally Posted by daug1502
thats the same brand an sealant i used, but not on a aerosol. just the metal tube.
if the housing and lense got to 400* touching the lights while on would burn your hand like putting it on the stove.
Yeah, I'm going with the one in the tube. It's half the price and it'll do the same thing. I think the Aerosol form has less control which could potentially suck if you get sealant in unwanted places.
Buy Permatex Clear RTV Silicone Adhesive Sealant 80050 at Advance Auto Parts_____
-Cathryn
400F would probably ruin the paint. Sounds like we have a winner, I'm thinking this mod may move up on my list.
So I did mine for the first time this weekend....it was interesting. Lol.
Off the bat, the first thing I realized was that the 10-12 minutes at 170 wasn't nearly enough. The temperature was fine, but not nearly long enough. Also, if once you have taken them out and its taken you a little longer to get them apart, don't be afraid to stick it back in the oven to loosen the glue up some more. It's better then trying to pry something that doesn't want to come apart and then breaking it.
When you're removing everything before you put it in the oven, make sure you look for all the screws. I missed one and when I was in the process of seperating the two, I broke a piece of the reflector. I was able to glue it back, but still a double check doesn't hurt.
The painting process wasn't too bad. I did do a couple of layers for the paint. However, I did have issues around the orange reflecting part where teeny pieces of chrome are still sticking out. Also, I can see a few chips on the headlights that bother me, but nobody else probably will even notice. Still agrevates me.
Biggest thing is to take your time. Some people can do it in 3 hours while others it might take more. When I do it again, I'll definitely take the whole process a lot slower.
Oh yeah, my silicone sealant tube broke open somehow. That was a lovely mess.
Anyway, I want to do this again and I will but for now here's a few pictures. It's definitely fun.
Painted the grill black as well.
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Nice work, looks like your took a rather comfortable approach to it. I always wear an old t-shirt and jeans. :tongue:
Do the reflectors come off? Im pretty sure they do. If so I wanna re-do it at some point and take them off when I do.
yes the reflectors are tabbed and pop out.
its amazing how good the black headlight look on a yellow aveo. nice work.
DANG IT. I totally rushed though. It's no where near as good as it could be. The good thing is that I know what I'm doing this time and now once I remove the reflector, it'll be easy to fix it. Maybe in a few weeks.
how long did it take you?
maybe i should clarify. not so much as rush but over react when something didn't go right which in turn would cause a nice chain reaction of other things going wrong (ie. the silicone sealant exploding in my hand.) most of the extra time was spent fixing things lol. It'll be much easier next time.