Fake Alarm LED Install

Anyone out there ever installed anything like this?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/HYPER-BLUE-FLASHI...QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/pr...romSearch=true

Pretty soon I am going to install some sort of blinking LED like this too simulate an alarm system since Im going to be putting a bit more money into my Aveo in the near future and I want to at least deter would be thieves.

The basic instructions say this:
White: Connects to constant 12+
Yellow: Connects to any 12+ accessory wire (12+ when the ignition is on)
Black: Ground to any 12- wire or any screw that is in metal.

I installed a deck, speakers, amp and subs myself including taking apart the doors so Im pretty condident with this stuff. What and where are the constant 12 volt and 12 volt accessory sources though. Do I have to hook a wire to my battery or is there existing ones behind the dash. If anyone has done this before or can suggest a good way to install this I'd appreciate it before I start experimenting.

The only real alarm lights are in red unless you customize it yourself...

Since people like that are extremely rare, a would be jacker could probably guess that it's fake and has no alarm attached, I mean have you ever passed by a car with a flashing light that wasn't red? If you have, was it a custom(ized) car?

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Originally Posted by g0ast

The only real alarm lights are in red unless you customize it yourself...

Since people like that are extremely rare, a would be jacker could probably guess that it's fake and has no alarm attached, I mean have you ever passed by a car with a flashing light that wasn't red? If you have, was it a custom(ized) car?

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Ok, I agree, but..I dont intend to use blue..It was only an example.

If you're going to spend money and time on a fake light, you might as well just wait and get an alarm system too, they only cost between $200~300 and it's better than anything fake...

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Originally Posted by g0ast

If you're going to spend money and time on a fake light, you might as well just wait and get an alarm system too, they only cost between $200~300 and it's better than anything fake...

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That makes absolutely no sense. You are suggesting that if I am going to spend 15 dollars on a few fake LED's I might as well just spend $200-$300 on a real alarm. And also that If I am going to use my time to install an LED or two I should just install a full alarm system beacuse the install will take a similar amount of time? Thanks for the advice, but my question isnt who thinks LED's are a good alternative to an alarm system, it is, has anyone had any experience installing anything like this and how did they do it. I am not a delusional person that believes an LED is better than full alarm system, I have made my decision, and I have no interest in an alarm. Thanks anyway.

Well it's up to you, I'd just feel better personally if I did have one.

Just my thoughts.

gotta agree with Goast... if you are going to just put an LED in the dash and think that it's going to keep thieves away, you better have a back-up... it's like putting a "Protected by ADT" stake in your front yard when you don't really have a house alarm. To some thieves it may deter them, but a lot it will not...

I can get just about any alarm (minus the ones with GPS) for under $200... they are VERY simple to install, despite what Best Buy tells you (I am a former installer, and I can do the basic install in about 30 minutes)...

BTW, I have a Viper alarm in both of my cars, and my LED is blue...

I can get a car alarm for 39.99 where I work. Shock sensor, siren and dome light monitoring... I can look into it some more...I don't know the brand off hand. Can look into it if you like. Alarms aren't worth all that much... I can also get those back up alarms pretty cheap also.

Didn't your car come with a factory installed alarm? Mine did. It's built right into the key.

I guess it depends on where you live, but I don't really think alarms will deter smash and grabbers too much. If you got something in view that's worth money, they're going to take it. Blinking light or not.

That light will not deter anyone. Thieves know people install them all the time to save cash!

I would invest in a good alarm if you plan on adding some mods to your ride. But that's just me! :)

The color of an LED has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the legitimacy of an alarm. I just installed one and it came with a blue LED. To answer the original question there is a constant 12V under the dash and any metal will serve as ground. I know you said you do not want a full alarm, but as previously stated, they are an easy install, all wires are under the dash and in the drivers kick panel. If you can install a HU/amp/sub, you can definately install an alarm. Also as stated decent alarms can be had for 40 bucks on ebay, scytek is a good brand, search ebay on that. also as stated smash and grab is the most common form of theft, so consider a glass breakage sensor. all this said I would put a fake LED and a sticker on rather than have nothing, thieves also take the path of least resistance.

true... if you look look you can even get a Viper alarm for around $50 on the bay...

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Originally Posted by AveoRob

"To answer the original question there is a constant 12V under the dash and any metal will serve as ground." "Also as stated decent alarms can be had for 40 bucks on ebay, scytek is a good brand, search ebay on that. also as stated smash and grab is the most common form of theft, so consider a glass breakage sensor." "all this said I would put a fake LED and a sticker on rather than have nothing, thieves also take the path of least resistance".

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Ok, finally, thank you for answering my question. Like you mentioned, "the path of least resistance" is absolutely right. Anyone who knows a thing about the kind of research that has been done on this knows that..... Unless some of you are car thieves, then I'm wrong I guess. With that said, I may just look into eBay for an alarm if they are that cheap...

here is a basic one for 40 bucks.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SCYTEK-CAR-ALARM-KE ... dZViewItem

this one is much better and adds remote start for 65 bucks.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SCYTEK-CAR-ALARM-RE ... dZViewItem

circuit city even has viper car alarms starting at $100

http://cgi.ebay.com/VIPER-571XV-2-way-R ... dZViewItem

that's the one I have... Love it...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Viper-Remote-Start- ... dZViewItem

There ya go... $10 shipped for my alarm... How people do this I do not know...

tad bit late on subject, but anything u put whether it be a led light or an actually alarm system will deter the punk kid or desperate asshole who sees an oppurtunity for a quick score, but an actuall theif will not think twice if they see somethin they want, chances are they are skilled enough to get what they need and be out in no time flat, and if its someone who plans on taking the whole car, then forget it an alarm that can be disable with a few snips or a press of a kill switch isn't going to stop anyone who is ballzy enough to commit Grand Theft Auto... in cali people would steal your car, then leave any personal stuff like your id card, or anything they didnt care to have in ur mailbox as a slap in the face.. so if u live in an area with younger people who are into the tuner scene i would go with a "club" type device to lock the steering wheel, or a system that has the ability to kill the car's cpu upon un-authorized entry, cuz maybe its just that i lived in cali and texas, but in both places people tend to just take the whole car and dump rather than try a smash n grab..

keep your ID in your wallet, lol...

I've always been partial to the "live wire on the door handle" idea... to bad that's now called "attempted murder"...

The key to a good alarm install is not to have a professional do it... They do every install the same way, and all you have to do is rip down and it will come out...

Do it yourself and hide it as best you can... I have 3 cars with Viper alarms and every one is installed in a different location...

Any good alarm install will include a starter kill relay. This breaks the starter wire with a relay, and the relay is activated by the alarm to "complete" the connection. If you rip the alarm out the car will never start, unless you remove the ignition wires from the relay and reconnect them together. a little bit time consuming.

I recall some Honda folks mounting razor blades in their wheel well so you couldn't get to the hood release from the outside without messing yourself up. Thens someone sued...

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Originally Posted by xtreme 2

keep your ID in your wallet, lol...

I've always been partial to the "live wire on the door handle" idea... to bad that's now called "attempted murder"...

The key to a good alarm install is not to have a professional do it... They do every install the same way, and all you have to do is rip down and it will come out...

Do it yourself and hide it as best you can... I have 3 cars with Viper alarms and every one is installed in a different location...

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^^thats not a bad idea lol...

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Originally Posted by mikedudley17

^^thats not a bad idea lol...

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Which one? The live wire in the door handle or the stealth installs?

I have installed the boxes anywhere... When you ask an individual, most will have you install them in the backseat panelling... Had a few mounted in the door panels with the wiring loomed with the speaker and door lock wires... Had a few that I have installed steel plates on the steering column to make it hard to get to (got this idea from my Jeep)

i was talkin about the razors lol. u can never win with criminals. u try and protect ur **** and they sue u. thats y they say, if a burglar comes in ur home, and u have a gun, make sure u shoot them inside ur home. if they go outside and u shoot em, drag em back into the house, lmfao!!! jk

Cheap DIY immobilizer

http://www.highrpm.org/howto/immobilizer/page1.html

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Originally Posted by AveoRob

Any good alarm install will include a starter kill relay. This breaks the starter wire with a relay, and the relay is activated by the alarm to "complete" the connection. If you rip the alarm out the car will never start, unless you remove the ignition wires from the relay and reconnect them together. a little bit time consuming.

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dude your the man...i just had somebody at work ask me about this because he broke the alarm clicker for the car he just got and its an aftermarket alarm and he cant start it now....i told him it was hooked into the ignition some how but i just didnt know how it worked.