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      Engine drop- enlisting knowledge

      I'll preface this with saying I've researched engine dropping on this forum.

      Anywho, as the genius I am, my timing slipped in my 04 hatchback while I was driving the 2...maybe 3 miles to the shop that was going to change my belt...Just got this guy three weeks ago
      Point is, my dad and I are looking to divert away from a valve job and just drop in something with a little more power and I found word of a few different engines that slip in but wanted to cover all our bases if possible.
      this very enlightening list is what we found

      •87-93 Pontiac Lemans 2.0 SOHC
      •87-94 Pontiac Sunbird 2.0 SOHC (turbo and non-turbo)
      •87-9? Chevy Cavalier 2.0 SOHC
      •80-CURRENT Vauxhall Astra 1.6,1.8 and 2.0 SOHC and DOHC (turbo and non-turbo)
      •80-CURRENT Opel Kadett/Astra 1.6,1.8 and 2.0 SOHC and DOHC (turbo and non-turbo)
      •Actually nearly every Opel or Vauxhall will bolt up including the V6 DOHC motors
      •08 Saturn Astra 1.8VVT DOHC
      •98-03 Daewoo Leganza 2.2 DOHC
      •98-03 Daewoo Nubira 2.0 DOHC
      •04-08 Suzuki Forenza 2.0 DOHC
      •04-08 Suzuki Reno 2.0 DOHC
      •98 Isuzu Rodeo & Amigo 2.2 DOHC

      Although Pops builds hot rods, he would like to say "hats off" to you all in the little car world and we would like to know if we can just run off this list or if we're missing any you might think a good option.
      Also, if to your knowledge any of these are not in fact "slip ins"?
      Thanks a zillion,
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      Re: Engine drop- enlisting knowledge

      By far the easiest swap is the 2.0 from the Forenza.

      It will drop right using your stock motor mounts and your 1.6's manual transmission.

      You need the 2.0 ECU but you can use your original harness, if you do that you need to work on it which is mainly lenghtening some wires for a few sensors.

      You do need a turn key engine tho, meaning all the serpentine belt accesories (alternator, power steering pump, a/c compressor, tensionner) and the brackets needed to hold everything in place, you need the 2.0's flywheel but you can keep your 1.6's clutch and pressure plate. The COMPLETE engine ready to run, NONE of the 1.6's accessories fit on the Forenza's 2.0 engine.

      Depending on where you can get the engine and parts for it, especially if you pick up a salvaged engine, which 90% are not complete, you need to pick up the rest of the parts from the dealer as most scrap yards dont carry what you will need. Be ready to spend up to 2000 dollars for the engine and all the parts needed.

      In my opinion its not worth it for the power increase, getting a salvaged 1.6 to replace yours is MUCH MUCH easier and if you simply slap a set of headers with a custom 2 inch exhaust and a nice air intake, you will have more power then a stock 2.0 and its going to cost way less.
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      Re: Engine drop- enlisting knowledge

      If you could get a hold of a Vauxhall Corsa VXR 1.6 turbo engine and the six speed manual transmission. That would give you great package, but you’re looking at something you’d have to ship in from England. There is a ton of performance add-ons for that engine.
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      Re: Engine drop- enlisting knowledge

      You will also need the complete wiring harness, all the sensors and the ecu for that engine. And like Lars said, importing that could be quite a costly process.

      Your gauges might not work properly if not at all with such a swap too, so your looking at custom gauges probably.
      > 2010 Mazdaspeed 3
      - Fully built, GT35R, 500+ whp

      > 2004 Hatchback 2.0L Turbocharged [RETIRED]
      - T3/T4 T04E .60 A/R Compressor
      - HKS SSQV, OBX Wastegate
      - FMIC with 2.5" piping
      - Tuned with Megasquirt II v3.57

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      Timing belt broke, do I keep it? thehunterooo's Avatar
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      Re: Engine drop- enlisting knowledge

      get another 1.6 and turbo it

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      Re: Engine drop- enlisting knowledge

      It's decided, we're going to keep the 1.6 seeing as 6 places said the one bent valve from the slip will be estimated 1400-1700 but my dads resident hot rodder machinist said he'll do it tomorrow if he can for 650.
      That's including a full 60,000 service and he really goes above and beyond.
      At any rate, we still think we should turbo it for now,
      we're thinking of making this little Aveo one of his guys' project cars down the road. Ha.. which means he'll want to go Diesel if at all possible.
      If it's not physically impossible, and I can pitch it to these old guys where it will sound fun, I betcha a pretty penny it will get done.
      They're all pre-'49 runners but they've got enough time on their hands and a wealth of knowledge and resources. Only issue is, their knowledge is from a different era.

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      Re: Engine drop- enlisting knowledge

      very true there

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      Re: Engine drop- enlisting knowledge

      Anyone heard of a Die aveo? I've been looking around...

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      Re: Engine drop- enlisting knowledge

      And I'm not talking about over in...idk... India...

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      Re: Engine drop- enlisting knowledge

      die?





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