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you lose up to 20% power at the wheels with an automatic and up to 15% on a manual...[/quote]

ive heard of autos losing up to 35% at the wheel thru the trans. thats y i dont drive auto.

not to be the critical jerk, but id have to see some dyno sheets and know the mods (if any) for me to beleive it.

what mods?

**In robotic voice***New Honda Fit, Fit is NO!**

Did i do that right? lol

Like i did state earlier, their motors are a smidgen smaller and they are only makin smidgen less power than us. But,...

I had this saved in my pc actually... lol just found it.

from the old forum:

Ray's 2005 Chevrolet Aveo LS HB (Stock) Max reads at 5025RPM

83.02 HP @ Wheel
90.51 Ft Lbs Torque

Joe's 2005...

its on the old forum, i posted the link somewhere here one time.

thats interesting. how much lighter are they? its also a smaller motor than ours. hhhmmmm....