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      Talking Stumpy's Super Stiff Strut Bar for 1st Gen!!

      Hey forum, it has been a while.
      Last time I went hard on here, I was developing a header for the Etec II. Well, it was quite cost prohibitive and the logistics of it are difficult, but not impossible. Combining the fact that I have overcome some challenges in my personal life (new baby), all of it was a little too much to handle at the time.

      So what now? I decided to step up to the plate and deliver something instead of being all talk and no show. Here it is:

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      That is what I have developed for you.

      "But wait Stumpy," you say.
      "Doesn't that other race company make those already?" you say.
      "Didn't FabricatorX make some of those?" you say.

      Yes. Yes they do, yes he did. I believe my design to be better for a few reasons.

      First, it is solid welded, no bolting up the main bar. Almost every factory OEM strut brace is solid and doesn't have the raised bushing bolt in main bar. The bushing will only act as a pivoting point, decreasing the true load transfer.
      Second, I don't like the bulky mount raised bushing look. It works for some cars with more room around the strut tower, but the Aveo is crowded around there, with the bell shaped strut mount tops, ECU, coolant tank etc. Also, the double mounting points make sure this thing doesn't shift under cornering load.

      I will be the first to admit, however, they are better fabricators than I am and probably has more experience etc. and would have a "cleaner" finish. I learned a lot doing this and probably could make it "cleaner" and faster.

      That all being said, I WILL MAKE ONE FOR YOU~!!
      That is right, you read correctly. I will make you a single piece to order. I will prime it and send it to you. Or paint it for a little extra. The cost is 120$ primed plus calculated shipping (varies so I cannot give you an exact amount). I will be able to bill you through PayPal, so it is secure and legit (no eBay fees & I will eat the PayPal fees). Once you pay, I will make the brace, probably about a week turnaround for it to be shipped. I live in CT, so you may also feel free to pick it up if you so choose.

      Disclaimer: You will have to modify the ECU bracket and cut off a bolt in order to install. I also don't know if it works with the stock airbox, since I have a CAI, but it probably would not.

      You could make this yourself if you really wanted to, I'll even show you how.

      "But Stumpy" you say.
      "I don't have a tube bender" you say.

      Neither do I, friend. With this technique, I will show you how to make it so you can make one too!
      Side note: If this is confusing ask questions. Don't be shy.

      MAKING THE STUMPY SUPER STIFF STRUT BRACE:

      -1" tubing, about 1/16 thick. You will need about 10'
      -3/16" plate. 4" x 11"
      Metal cutting (grinder / cutoff / drill bits)
      Welder
      Tape measure, marker, hammer
      Sockets and extension
      Flange head bolts, flange nuts (4 each)


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      Start by making a template. You can see the general shape of mine and the approximate dimensions of the plate I used. Make a template out of cardboard to mock up the two factory holes on either side of the strut tower and contour to fit around the bell shaped strut mount. Cut the holes and "install" the template to make sure the holes are right!
      Trace the template onto the plate and cut it out. Drill the holes. I used 3/8" hole. I don't need to explain all that, but I will say make a pilot hole before going that big.
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      BIG SIDE NOTE: You can see that I didn't cut that triangle corner piece off the plate like how it is in the template. I left it on because I was still unsure where the bars would be able to land for clearance. It ended up being bad that I didn't cut them because when I started fabbing in place, I couldn't take the bar out . Cut the corners to make the shape like the cardboard template.

      Next I did the tubing. The two lengths are 55" and 50". Cut them and deburr the cuts. Draw a straight line down the tube by sitting the tube on a flat surface, clamp it, and run the marker across the side (marker flat on table).

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      For the 55" rear bar- mark 12.5" in from each end, and 3 more marks 1" spacing towards the end (12.5",11.5" etc) for a total of 4 marks. Then, if you can, set the depth of your chop saw and cut all 8 lines to the same depth, making sure to cut without rotating the tube. Once you cut the lines, bend your tube!
      For the 50" front bar- mark 8.5" from each end, 2 more marks 1" to the end total of 3 marks. Same thing with cut and bend.
      Pro Tip: don't turn the tube around to cut the other side it doesn't work well. Just feed it straight to get the other side in position.

      Now weld it back together and grind the welds smooth.

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      Now it is time to mock up the brace. Bolt in the plates, tightening the rear first. My towers had a little bow to them so I made sure to make process to it. Hold the forward bar up to the plates and mark where you need to cut off to have it be level to the plate. Hard to explain but I think you kid of get the gist of it. Cut it level and get happy with the fitment.
      Tack it in place, take the bar out and weld it a little better but not fully just in case. Now you can mock up the rear bar and trim it too.

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      (yes I know the bar isn't welded in this pic I had to remake one of them. Lucky for you I can give you the finished recipe)
      If you are happy with it, get to welding!

      Continued in next post for more pictures!


      Last edited by Stumpy; 05-02-2018 at 08:03 PM.

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      All welded up, now it is time to prep for paint.
      I wire wheeled and did some light sanding/grinding before doing a self etching primer.
      After that, I used some filler primer to smooth out some ugly spots.
      Paint and clear coated.

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      HOW TO INSTALL THE STRUT BAR:

      You will have to remove the ECU bracket using 10mm socket and extension. Not going into crazy detail for that. You will also have to cut the right bolt.

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      I bolted the ECU bracket back in place using the left bolt/recessed nut, laid the strut bar on it, traced the bar mount on the bracket and cut the bracket around the strut plate. (you follow that?)

      The way I made this brace was so you could fit it diagonally into the engine bay. Tight fit but it clears no problem.

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      Now that the way is cleared, you can jack the front of the car up to fit your arm all the way up to the strut tower and pop the bolts through from the underside.

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      I tightened the rear bolts first before doing the front. Now your strut brace is in and you can make some mad turns!
      Clearance shots:

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      SUMMARY:

      I had a lot of fun doing this. I learned a lot and could do this all faster and better the next time. The difference in handling is incredible. The shocks from potholes is lessened and the whole car feels so might tighter in the front. Awesome.

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      ALSO! If I get a few people that want these all at the same time I will buy a tube bender to make these better and faster.

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      hmmm ... this appears outrageous and outstanding... i will have to do a second look but ... hmmm
      just a data point how ultra racing has similar products and i'm not discounting the hypothetical superiority of the design,
      i belive they shipped to me from malaysia to florida to vancouver

      its just theres no market here, just so you know right, its all just for the fun of the car
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      If I wanted a "market" I'd buy a civic

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      Very nice! Glad to hear it made a noticeable difference.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
      If I wanted a "market" I'd buy a civic
      Ya - have to agree on you with that, and I hope you can garner some interest from folks.. wasn't meaning to sound negative if it came across that way. Like you mention, and I totally agree, that the handling improvement on the front end is incredible!

      You should try doing a rear sway bar while you are at it, unless you already have.. and keep up on the exhaust manifold! Your welds look pretty nice to me, and btw this was a really well documented post. Thanks for ponying up on the diy fabrication, I got hooked myself a couple years ago and am dying for my own workspace!

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      Very old thread but this looks fantastic, definitely will be doing it. I see you have the ECU mounted the same way I do, which was causing an issue for me. You solved the problem very well.




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