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Has anyone here had any throttle body issues with their Wave or Aveo? I have 87,000 km on my 2007 Wave and just had the throttle body replaced for the 3rd time. The frustration is killing me...even moreso now that my warranty is expired and I took an $800 hit on this last repair.
Throttle bodies going bad isn't unheard of. 3 in that short of a time seems rediculous. I know I have one from my 07 engine I've been trying to sell for a while, but nobody seems interested.
I have an 07 Wave as well, with over 105,000km on it. No issues with mine.
Good to know. I think my car must be the factory lemon.
Oh mine is too. Is just I have yet to have any throttle body issues :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Chad
What issues have you had with your car? My list is almost too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisu91
I've replaced (both sides) ABS speed sensors, oil pressure sensor, alternator, both front wheel bearings, left front axle shaft, subframe, both front control arms & bushings as well as both front sway bar links.
YIKES! How many of those repairs were covered under your warranty?
I've replaced the ECM, wiring harness, thermostat, had a faulty coolant resevoir hose (with a coolant leak that still can't be found), oil pressure sensor, and 3 throttle body repalcemnents.
Do you have the Wi model too?
Yup I've got the Wi model (came with an iPod :p). The only thing covered under warranty I believe were the ABS sensors. Now it's over 5 years old so warranty is done. Recently I've had my timing belt replaced. They pressure tested the system and found a coolant leak from the water pump's O ring. Replaced that before they put it back together and everything checked out.
Ya...my Wi came with the iPod too.
I got in touch with GM Canada and they helped me out as much as they could with the multiple throttle body replacement issue. Being that I had already paid for the work to be done, all they could do was send me a $200 service voucher which was still appreciated. I'm just frustrated because no one can figure out why my car has this problem and, now that I have no warranty left, I can't afford for the dealership to change expensive parts just based on what they think may fix the problem. I'm losing faith in GM these days which is sad because they're the only company I've invested in since I've had my driver's license.
Is the code P2135? If so then yes, I had that problem too. Fought it the life of the car and traded it in with that code. GM basically gave up and tried to blame my aftermarket alarm and refused anymore warranty work while the alarm was installed. Also replaced multilple sensors, door lock fell in door, back axel had a bad clunking noise, brake light switch went bad, plus a whole lot more i can't remember, trading that in was the best thing I did! That thing was in the shop or being repaired more than not.
Yep....that's the code! It sucks that GM gave up and blamed your alarm because it's clearly not the issue if the same thing is happening to me. I'm fairly convinced that this car would be served better in a scrap yard...and that's if they would even take it!
Hi folks,
I'm told that my throttle body is bad on my 2007 Pontiac Wave (automatic). The GM dealer said that if I don't get it fixed soon, that I would have to redo the spark plugs and plug wires again, that they just replaced on the day before for $450 (including a computer diagnostic scan).
Would a bad throttle body symptoms include very poor gas mileage - months before showing other symptoms such as sudden loss of power?
I wonder how acceptable it should be that an expensive part like the throttle body goes bad with less than 100,000 kms. (75,000 kms on my wave) They quoted me $400 for the part and $200 for labour + tax. Does that seem right? It's seem ridiculous that so many would have this problem. Perhaps a class action law suit should be filed?
Anyhow, any help/advice that you great folks give me, would be greatly appreciated.
For a more complete description, see my garage in my profile.
Thanks,
GF
Lots of people have had issues with their throttle bodies. Unfortunately, nobody has taken the time to examine them and figure out what is going on with them.
ive had2 in the time ive owned mine now i just clean it every so often to make sure its in working order.
It's not acceptable! GM's technical service department knows it's a problem and doesn't care to fix it. My throttle body was replaced twice under warranty and I had to pay for it the 3rd time at 87,000 km when my warranty was expired. That was a $800 hit. I've lost all faith in GM products and will never own anything of theirs again after I get rid of this vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost flyer
I almost caused an accident after I pulled into an intersection when my Pontiac Wave lost power all of a sudden. I could have been hurt and so could have others. In my opinion, this is a clear and real hazard, and should be replaced under a safety recall bulletin. As for keeping it clean, how many other vehicle owners of other makes and models have this problem?
If you folks are interested in starting a class action suit, please let me know. If there are enough people, I'll look into getting a lawyer and start the ball rolling here, in Canada. If you are in another country, please don't let that stop you from taking part. Perhaps someone in your country will start this process there, too.
I've had it with GM not being accountable for their defective products and in this case, placing my family in danger. This most definitely should be a safety recall and I'm pretty confident that a judge will see it the same way.
Thanks,
GF
What is going wrong with them? Ive only had recall work done on mine and at 211,000km have had no issues with the throttle body
what symptoms did you have when they said your Throttle body was bad?
I was having intermittent reduced power mode about once a week for close to 6 mos, any code I could get out of it pertained to tbody. Finally, got it to act up 3 days in a row and Baro was way off, trouble starting cold. It was fueling like it was at 9,000 feet.
Fortunately for me, tbody is still ok and I didn't need to replace it. We'll see what happens next year when the weather gets cold again thoAttachment 6367.
Greetings,
I'm about to install a new throttle body. Any special tools (Torx, etc) I should have beyond the average set of tools?
How long did it take you for removal and installation? Thanks for your input.
Any new project is worthy of buying new tools. Just say to the wife "I need some Torx sockets for this job, going to harbor freight." Then go buy them. I assure you, your inner guy will never be happier.Quote:
Originally Posted by dilrod
Ha ha, I was thinking the same thing!! Always a good reason to buy more tools!Quote:
Originally Posted by xintersecty
I don't have my car here so I could look. You may have to take of the valve cover and that uses metric hex allen key. I have a 3/4 drive set for that. I would get a sex of Torx. I needed them to remove the passenger and driver air bag sensors.
2011 Chevy Aveo5
I am have a similar issue with my 2011 Aveo.
It started after driving about a mile or 2, when I depress the gas pedal half way it would lose all power and stall the motor. I would then depress the pedal all the way and the car would take off. then after holding the pedal all the way down several times for bout 2-5 miles it would stop and work normal untill I shut car off or if I drove it slow through a town and had stop and go traffic.
From the research I am doing it really sounds like it is a TPS issue, which means I would need to replace my entire throttle body to get this repaired. I cannot believe that I have such a major problem on a 3 .5 year old car. I should not have such a major problem on such a new vehicle
I have a manual transmission, I believe if I had an auto tranny that my car would be almost useless at this point. but because it is manual I am able to shift when I need to.
Also, my issue has turned into the fact that now no matter what gear I am driving in the engine will not go higher than 4000rpms. I can barely manage to go highway speeds.
It would be nice if anyone knows if replacing the TB actually fixes the problem, that is what I really need to know. I just don't want to waste money buying lots of parts.
I would pull open the intake and give a good cleaning. Also get a friend to watch the TB and make sure the butterfly valve is moving smoothly with the accelerator pedal. On 2006 and up aveo, it's fly by wire meaning there is a computer controlled actuator at the TB.
P2135 - Throttle/Pedal Position Sensor/Switch 'A'/'B' Voltage Correlation.
I replaced the throttle body on my 2008 Aveo 5 speed, no power anything, at 51K miles a year ago and it cost $75. I replaces it at again at 55K 2 days ago and this one cost $50 (ebay auction-I was the only bidder).
It only takes 15 minuets to change once you have done it a few times. 1/4" racher wrench with a 3 or 4 " extension, three 10mm nuts, 1 10mm bolt, 1 wire connector, 2 small heater hose clamps (plires) and 2 air duct clamps (flat blade screw driver). I re-used the old red "O" ring at the base plate.
I am getting 37 MPG on the car but I drive very conservatively.