Hey, I have a chance to get my hands on a 2.2L Supercharged Eco-tec off a 2007 Cobalt.
Will it fit??
I Know there will have to be some exstensive mods, but generally will it fit?
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Hey, I have a chance to get my hands on a 2.2L Supercharged Eco-tec off a 2007 Cobalt.
Will it fit??
I Know there will have to be some exstensive mods, but generally will it fit?
if I remember correctly that's a screw type charger... the charger and manifold is heug... doubt you'd have clearance without serious modification. I believe a 2.5l SC swap has been done (anyone care to post the link?), so it is possible.
ummm arent the supercharged cobalts 2.0Ls
yeah they areQuote:
Originally Posted by AVE0SAM
I never heard of a 2.5l sc swap....u sure u didnt mean the 2.0? or maybe the 2.4?Quote:
Originally Posted by exodus
its not going to fit you will have to have a completely new intake manifold fabbed up and all the belts fabbed to fit right i did a lot of lookin around and researching this and you can do it but it would take a lot of work money and time.
Easier (but not easy) to swap in the whole sc Ecotec engine then to modify the sc to fit our engines.
oh no its not.....it would be WAY easier to just put the SC on there...the SS/SC engine (LSJ) is raced the opposite way our engine is faced. There is a LOT more fabricating to get the whole engine to fit vs just the SCQuote:
Originally Posted by whiteraven
umm if you really wanna supercharge it you should do a rotrex supercharger. one has already been mounted in a kalos and it centrifigal so its easier to moutn plus there is a kit out for the fit so it would be easy to find one, hell you could probably find used ones soon
x2 the rotrex was something i almost did but then all this turbo talk came about and you can get a lot more power out of a turbo.Quote:
Originally Posted by AVE0SAM
the only issues with the rotrex really is the mounting....which like aveosam said has been done in a kalos, so its not a HUGE issue...and then the other issue of course being tuning which if your not doing to much can be done pretty easily with a piggy back
Where can I see one of these Rotrex superchargers?Quote:
Originally Posted by AVE0SAM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18..._Boy14/3-1.jpg
I believe I see a supercharger on my favorite aveo =]
Any ideas what it is?
It was on a video here, its a cobalt ecotec swapped engine with an upgraded SC running 850HP....maybe someone can find the video, I cant...but it was at the mobil 1 booth.
that car has the supercharged cobalt ss engine in it....the LSJ and no it is not pushing 850hp that engine is not capable of those kind of numbers with a the stock supercharger. if i remember correctly when i first found this is that it has about 260hp with the stage 2 kit with a smaller pully and then intake and full exhuast.
hi :pottytrain4:
http://www.aveoclub.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1747
like i said in that thread the cobalt engine capable of that power is the 2.2L engine. cobalts are only able to put about 450whp twin charging with the supercharger AND a turbo with about 25psi....there is no way on the stock m62 that they are pushing more than 400hp.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikedudley17
it doesnt have to be stock, it can be a whole new block, pistons, cams, crankshaft...and all the other internals....and because that SC looks like the stock one from a cobalt doesnt mean it is...they push 1500+ out of 6 cylinder supra engines...and I have a "modified mag" magazine that has a cobalt drag racer using a eco-tec engine pushing 1200hp.
^^^ not w/ a stock turbo.
Its huge.
That is a DRAG CAR. The engine is rebuilt after every dozen or so runs.
You would need a turbo to get the 2.0 eco above 400 hp.
Quote:
Originally Posted by o4aveohb
hahaha there is no way a supercharged 4 cyclinder like that is going to make any where need 800hp.
exactly...if i remember correctly the m62 can only handle about 450hp or so with the blower being ported.Quote:
Originally Posted by AVE0SAM
I am surprised it can even take that much. I have never seen a M62 make over 300 without nitrous or turbo
friend of mine is an engine builder for hallet motorsports as well as humble motorsports. he just finished a 900fwhp All-Motor EcoTec for a Cobalt Drag Car they have...
I kind of have to agree with AveoSS on this one, there's no way that Aveo can push 850hp but even if it did, you won't drive a car like that very much, I mean, not with all that rubber being burned off. You would need new tires every time you take it out of your driveway...
My good friends at Top Gear tested a car that could be comparable to that Aveo.
Anybody ever seen this vid? http://youtube.com/watch?v=_H5TR97cX3s, if you havent, it was a VW Golf that had an ultimate upgrade, with a rear axle from a Lambo Gallardo, a W12 engine from a Bently Conti' and the rear frame from an Audi R8... Producing a 650hp VW hatchback... The car was widened 6", lowered 3" and it was turned into a RWD. If you haven't, watch it, but pay particular attention at around 3:20, you'll see why an Aveo like that would be an amazing show car, but not a drivable car... The VW has just 650, and it's RWD, the Aveo has "850" and it's still a FWD, you see where I'm going with this right?
To handle 850hp and still drive, you need at least 4WD and TC, that's why you see so many suped up Subaru's. Japanese cars pushing those numbers work too, only cause they are much longer and much lower to the ground than the Aveo and are RWD with TC.
My point is, those Aveo guys are lying bastards who are just trying to exaggerate how good Mobil 1 can lubricate engines like "if it can lube this 850hp Aveo, it can lube your POS". I bet that thing only does about 250-350 seeing how it looks like it's still basically the same engine, and how it's still in a sideway placement (FWD), that Scion xB feature might be more likely, but again probably not "1100hp" like they say, but it is a RWD, since it's facing forward, probably gets about 6-700hp...
That blonde bimbo is a nice touch though, even if she's too stupid to know WTF she's talking about, go suck some more D ho.
If you have a FULLY BUILT (All internals, cams, camshafts, ported head ect) engine with a PORTED (A pretty good size port) blower. And then full exhaust and crap your looking at right around 350-380whp. MAYBE. With turbos on the LSJ you can get to 450whp pretty easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by aveodude
BUT THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL. that an LSJ with the M62 has 850+hp....ill put a million bucks on it.
And extreme...The fully built drag cars that are ecotec are the 2.2L engines with twin turbos.
There is ONE lsj in the works with a twin turbo FULLY BUILT RWD car that is going to push about 750-800whp....so i KNOW that that aveo isnt pushin that much HP
the reason it comes out backwards is because of the weight in the rear not because of powerQuote:
Originally Posted by g0ast
Saw a show on discovery about a year ago, where Jay Leno says GM performance division can actually get the ecotech to about 1000hp (at crank). I would like to know what the setup was all about.Quote:
Originally Posted by AveoSSSupercharged
But that reminds me. Ford had a 2.3L engine pushing 650hp for their rally cars back in the 80's. The only problem was that it had a lifetime of about 30 hours before being rebuilt.
Nope, the drag cars are 2.0L. They used the 2.2 block and de stroked the motor for higher revs.Quote:
Originally Posted by AveoSSSupercharged
its still the LE5 not the LSJ. /endQuote:
Originally Posted by sappy96
Yea I know it's the 2.2L, but still, to say that a Cobalt motor can't handle that is a fallacy...
Actually its just a block. Soo its neither.Quote:
Originally Posted by AveoSSSupercharged
The LSJ with an M62 supercharger CANNOT produce those numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by xtreme 2
no one said that it had to use the M62 charger...
i know that but im saying that the aveo with the LSJ in it has the M62 on it and there is NO WAY its pushing those number.