I lied in my original post. The officer didn't really give me a break it was a 80 zone I was doing between 80-90 for sure and he wrote 80 in a 60 but it was a 80 zone
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I lied in my original post. The officer didn't really give me a break it was a 80 zone I was doing between 80-90 for sure and he wrote 80 in a 60 but it was a 80 zone
the name is most likely not going to help you.
i dont think they can easily increase the maximum after they fine, but your in canada, i dont know they law up there.
i thought canada had a new law that double the speed limit meant loss of license and towing of your car? you should just consider your self lucky you are still allowed to drive.
you gotta pay to play.
go into court and tell them you cant afford a ticket, but you'll set up payment of the fine, that you will take the course, and you need to your license to go to work so you can pay the fine. If you agree to pay the fine, can they waive the points so you can afford to keep your license. blah blah blah..
in the us they can change the fine to something with no points.
make sure you emphasis that you will slow down, and then slow down.
How it works in the US:
If you were NOT a smartass with the officer and polite and took your ticket you would...
Plead not guilty to the ticket and get a court date. Show up early and speak to the procecutor. Explain your situation and how sorry you are. Usually if your record is not bad they will amend the ticket to one with a local ordinace with a large fine BUT no points.
HOWEVER, we too have provisional licenses for new drivers and they will not do this if it is a provisonal license.
I am not sure how it works in Canada, but may be similar.
Unfortunately I think you might want to talk to a lawyer for advice since this could mean you losing your license. It might be too late by the time you go to court.
I can't say for sure in Canada, but in US the cop can't dismiss it at this point so no sense writing him a letter. It is up to the procecutor at this point. Since you were polite and didn't argue on the side of the road, they will usually work with you. Again, in the US the local town will change the ticket to something with a hefty LOCAL fine so they keep the majority of the money. It is a racket. Again, here in US, it is the points that affect the insurance cost. You might want to consult a traffic lawyer familiar with your local laws. And whatever you do, slow down and don't get popped again for a while.
Ontario has a law like that. Probably not PEI though.
In Ont, doing 120 in a 60 zone (or 50 km over any limit) would have meant:
- minimum fine of $2,000 (max of $10k)
- immediate seven-day driver’s licence suspension and seven-day vehicle impoundment, plus probably ridiculously expensive impound lot charges
Good luck with your situation, brendan.
I got one ticket when I was 16, and nearly a few more. Now I'm a little saner now than I used to be.
Both post are excellent, accurate advice. I can't say whether the law is different in Canada, but it's usually something similar.
All I'll add is: if you are still driving after it is resolved, buy a radar detector and use it! Even though it's too late, it's better late than never...
brendan: in Ontario, there are services that will help you fight traffic tickets. They're usually staffed by retired cops.
Again, not sure if PEI has one, but since so much is on the line in your case, even if it costs, you might want to look them up and see if they can help.
You Can Fight Your Traffic Ticket! is one I've seen advertised in Canada
doh, no PEI office:
Still might be worth a call...Quote:
POINTTS has over 20 offices in Ontario, Manitoba, and Alberta ready to help fight your traffic ticket!
I know here in Florida, some people I know have been speeding/DUI and lost the license for 6 months to a year, but got hardships licenses which let them go to work, school and such. I would think Canada has something like this as well? That was fast though, you are lucky the cop did not go all out.
I teach a defensive driving class twice a month here in the states. In the US, some states are 'Absolute' speed limit states, some are 'Presumed'. - google that for more info.
You have to find out how PEI courts interpret the posted speed limit. I dont have time to write everything I know down, but if PEI is an 'Absolute' speed limit area (not likely)then your up ****s creek,
In a 'presumed' speed limit state, you can add to your case, that while you are extremely sorry like others said, The speed you were travelling at was reasonable and prudent given the conditions...hopefully you meet all these.. It was clear and sunnny, visibility was perfect. There were no pedestrians or parked vehicles in site, Traffic was light, The roadway could sustain the speed of your car. Your tires and brakes are new or in excellent shape. It felt reasonable and prudent at the time, therefore, no law (unsafe speed) has been broken. but you realize now that your cited speed was a little over ambitious, not your best judgement, and going forward, you'll be traveling at a speed much closer to the posted limit. You might not walk away clean, but maybe with this, you can get dropped down to something that keeps your licence, but has a little $$ to cover court costs and line some pockets.
In any case, traveling at double the posted limit, is a hard sell, and if written up for that, you'd take the ticket and face the consequences.. But, since the cop liked you he, cut you a break, and cited you for something a little more arguable. So you have some bargaining chips. Best of Luck.
Oh, and by the description of the roadway you were on, may fall into the above criteria quite nicely.
(at least locally anymore) the officer not showing up isn't 100%, there just has to be a representative of the police officer
a representative will mean you dont get off scott free, but does not stop you from reducing, or changing to a no points fine.
around here, its points.
Yeah Points primarily. Back in my wild driving days, I learned I could plea tickets down to an '1110a' -failure to obey a traffic device.
I loaded up on these, and one time when talking to my insurance company I insisted I was safe, I had no speeding tickets! And they said, well you dont speed, but you seem to run a lot of stop signs and red lights...
I'm not sure if I'd write to the cop. Maybe the DA or Judge. A local lawyer might give you some advice over the phone...might consider throwing a few bucks at one..
So, what happened at the meeting?
In pleading guilty you have everything to lose and nothing to gain. In your conference with the prosecutors they learned that you don't know how to defend yourself. So why should they back down or cut a deal?
Plead not guilty and go get a consultation with a lawyer who specializes in traffic violations. That's your only chance for a favorable outcome.
or you could stop speeding.
I've stopped, I've occasionally gone 10 over the limit here and there on the highway depending on the situation... Saving a ton of gas in not speeding or zooming through my gears too, wow.
ok guys, be honest... who's got the best speeding ticket story...
and it has to be in an aveo....
in an aveo, i cant help you.. in a few others cars.. yes.
Well, it's like this... I rely on my car for everything, picking up the ladies, going to work, leaving work, going to school, leaving school, going to parties, going to friends houses like I'm literally on the road all day and I love it. I live to drive, and drive to live...
Is showing off and zooming past everyone really worth hefty fines and the lose of your legal ability to drive? Nope, not one bit.
true story... i got my license back not long ago after losing it for three months... and all infractions were committed in my aveo... i was once pulled over in maryland by a really cool cop... he walked up to window and said, i give you props, i didnt knowone of these would go 108 mph... speed limit: 55...
damn, that must have been a hefty ticket, they do not even put a price on those until you go to court :D
Someone I know was doing 105 in a 70-75 (he was 30+ over), he lost his for 6 months, though he did get a hardship license for the time, after all the fees, it came out to $700 or so. Someone else I know got into a horrible accident while driving drunk, almost got killed, he may have wished he was though, in the end he will spend roughly $10,000 overall and A TON of time in classes and such.
Just not worth driving fast or impaired lol
I'm not sure how Canadian law works, but you can get a worker's license if your license is suspended in the US I believe.
yea... here in PA, when i lost my liecense, i couldn't even apply for an occupational only license because i lost it for too many points... thought the dmv was trying to blow smoke up my skirt... but thats what my lawyer said too... any idfea how ELSE you lose your license? not that i'm anxiouis to try... i'd just really like to know how its done.
DUI, DWI, speeding, wreckless driving, no insurance, etc.
pretty much an excessive form of anything your not supposed to do anyhow will cost you your license.
Just drive and be REALLY SAFE AND CAREFULL for the ENTIRE duration of the suspension. 20 days to make or break a habit right?
You have new safe driving skills habits once its all over.