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Yes and? The Cruze has been on their site for a month, if not 2, now. I personally hate the Cruze.
Maybe they should rename it lumina. And then we can all hate it with you.
Bite me. I hate it because it's too eco-focused and feeds into the environmental BS. That AND it's not a proper replacement for the performance oriented Cobalt.Quote:
Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
i wish rabbit, i hate w bodies soooo muchQuote:
Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
look at that engine yo
But it's a nice replacement for the common pos cobalt. Which even a lot of cobalt owners I know say the ss is the same pos but with a nice engine.
Plus the 1.4t does more than just make tree huggers happy. It gives you performance and saves you gas money.
>small engine with a turboQuote:
Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
>performance
>same numbers as the N/A 1.8L
wat.
better than any w body
I've about had it with you Hunter, constantly knocking the W-body platform.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehunterooo
Nevermind the cars have a cult-like following.
Nevermind the ingenuitive engineering in them
Nevermind the fact that the 3,000-3,600lb cars could actually handle.
Nevermind that the engines made Wards 10 best list numerous times.
Nevermind that the reliability and quality was on par with it's competition, import or not.
Nevermind that the cars were significantly better value than anything in their class AND are a huge step above your econobox.
HELL, Let's ignore the fact that the sales from this platform single-handedly were what kept GM from filing for bankruptcy as long as they did.
No, Let's concentrate on why you hate this platform for no reason. Everything I hate, there's a reason behind. What's yours?
Your missing a bunch of things like gearing, weight etc. That's what produces the numbers. You like to compare things but you need to know what matters in the comparison as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Z34guy
1.4l making 140 hp is 10 hp per .1 liter. How many engines are doing that? I know a lot of turbo direct injection engine doing better. But seriously.
Also with safety requirements etc going into new cars the added weight with every generation makes getting better numbers hard, besides that EPA ratings are a joke. You have people here doing muck better an much less, getting the drive they want out of them.
Oh. And the gremlin, edsel, and Citation have a cult following just like your w bodys. Does that make them the best car ever too?
I NEVER said it was the best car platform ever. Just pointing out that there are reasons for it's cult following and reasons the platform lasted over 20 years in production. There is no real logical reason for hating this platform other than it being Front Wheel Drive, and somewhat heavy (though no more-so than any of it's competitors). If ya go for a base model, they float like a Cadillac and take forever to gather any sort of speed, with the exceptions being the generation 3 W-body cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by petrified.rabbit
it competitors? which you pointed out to be the bmw? which you also say its superior to. Bmw is heavy because of what is put into them, but you should know that since you like engineering.
20 years, 15 of which relied on superficial refacing to survive with the times.
its a run of the mill car chevy people mover, i would go on but i like my aveo, which was built top be the best of well nothing. but it succeeded at being a 2009 version of my 1975 rabbit.
Geese! So hateful. It's not that serious.
[IMG]http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/...oe/lacetti.jpg[/IMG]Quote:
Originally Posted by thehunterooo
[IMG]http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/...ojoe/cruze.jpg[/IMG] same ****.
Torque:Quote:
Originally Posted by Z34guy
1.4 L turbo: 148 lb.-ft. of torque (200 Nm) between 1,850 rpm and 4,900 rpm
1.8 L n.a.: 123 lb.-ft. of torque (168 Nm) at 3,800 rpm.
source: http://media.gm.com/content/media/us...uze_powertrain
I know which one I'd pick.
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Originally Posted by EvySpeedy254
its not that serious, its just the internet, i doubt anyone is lossing any sleep.. But it is just like 20% of this forum is hunter hating honda, another 20% of this forum is z34 talking about how his lumina is superior in every way. That leaves 60% of the content for actual aveo stuff...
more like 5% buddy!
Maybe I should make some Honda and Lumina subforums!
good ideal, then we wont have to see z34 anymore :D
wow hunter u like to start problems with z34 dont you lol
problems? we are good friends see, we just make fun of each other
z34, you need to stream fnf on 4chan :D
Jee, getting hot in here! So, my 2 cents: I love my Aveo, but I rather have a Fit, Civic, Versa, WRX and many other hatchbacks, but the Aveo is payd and I like the look and especs on it. WHO HERE DOES NOT RATHER HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAN WHAT THEY OWN NOW? I also own a Versa sedan and its great, I've had a Hyunday Accent, Suburban, Wrangler, sprint, Daihatsu, Subaru and the list goes on and on, they were all great! I had a Ford Focus, Explorer and both were ****, still I'm sure some other Ford owners love them, my point is, most cars if taken care are good, a small percentage are lemon due to factory defects or enginering issues, my Fords were lemons, still, I don't hate Fords, I love the Mustang and the F150, and I would consider buying another Focus. Mainly I judge cars on looks, I'm shalow! LOL. Some W cars are beautiful others are garbage to me...
go on fitfreak with that speak and you will be dead....
though i agree 100% except for what cars i want, i want my aveo!
Fit freak? Ur just looking for trouble, aren't you Hunterboy! LOL Not really. Many cars I rather have than a Fit. Than again I hate to have car payments, so, for now the Aveo is tha 'BOMB'! Now, if I'm doing better later on I'll pass the Aveo on to my daughter and get myself something nice, no, not a Fit more like BMW or Mercedes! LOL
trouble finds me.....
Lmao love it rabbit! Thinking the same
Thing! N hunter hates Honda!!!!!???? What?! Now it's war!! Come
On let's tag team his azz Oscar! Lol jk jk :-p
lol oscar knows i would whoop him:D
What are you kids screaming about now?! And why is Hunterooo always in the sh*t?
they are jealous of my aveo swagger
Hunter is a trouble maker, we need to designate a 'WATCH BUDY' to keep an eye on him, maybe we can take turns?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by NYChevoo
this is all wrong, I made this thread to show off the new cruze, and it turns into this, was not even my fault this time...
Its not ur fault really, 'U give a monkey a gun, and the monkey shots someone, don't blame the monkey'! :D just messing with u. I love the pics u posted, I saw the Cruze today, its much nicer than I expected, nicer than its japanese/korean counterparts, If GM is able to keep the price sensible it will be a great buy, at $24k tho its too much, ad a bit and u can buy something better like a Malibu, the price should drop once its 'novelty' wear off and GM is always willing to negociate on the price of its vehicles. I like that 1.4 turbo engine, wish they offer a diesel version...
Is the Cruze build in the USA?
i dont think so