Aveo vs. Fit

Well with the way everyone pumps up how the fit is the best car in our segment i was surprise to see this...
"Put my 07 Fit on the Dynapack at Locash Racing last night just messing around and to see what it made at the wheels.
The car made 81.1 whp and 83.5 wtq (i didnt get the right print out of my MAX hp run, haha)"

http://www.phxhomeimprovement.com/dy...tinfitdyno.jpg

I found it on a honda forum I frequent. Surprisingly I think the aveo dynos somewhere around 85 whp with just an intake like this car has. Can anyone back this up?

its on the old forum, i posted the link somewhere here one time.

thats interesting. how much lighter are they? its also a smaller motor than ours. hhhmmmm....

they are heavier i believe

they are heavier.

Looking at the specs the Fit is 2432lbs for the base model with Manual trans. The "sport" model adds on about 40lbs
Whereas the Aveo(hatch) is 2,343lbs for a base with manual.


They have all that safety equipment(side curtain airbags etc.) so that adds lots of weight(But who needs that), Also that folding seat system they have adds on due to the brackets and junk from what Ive heared.

I had this saved in my pc actually... lol just found it.

from the old forum:

Ray's 2005 Chevrolet Aveo LS HB (Stock) Max reads at 5025RPM

83.02 HP @ Wheel
90.51 Ft Lbs Torque

Joe's 2005 Chevrolet Aveo LS HB (Intake, Cat-Back, High Flow Cat) Max at 4820RPM

92.62 HP @ Wheels
99.97 Ft. Lbs Torque

nice...so the fit isn't so superior to the aveo performance-wise that it is chopped up to be, powerwise and fuel economy...i think ill go give the aveo a pat for that tomorrow lol

**In robotic voice***New Honda Fit, Fit is NO!**

Did i do that right? lol

Like i did state earlier, their motors are a smidgen smaller and they are only makin smidgen less power than us. But, nice to know some official stats for real. I deem this-good find!

Yea, figures...

Dan and I dyno'd 93 to the wheels with I/E/Ported Header and UDP...

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Yea, figures...

Dan and I dyno'd 93 to the wheels with I/E/Ported Header and UDP...

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could have been different style dynos.... =D> love the new avatar i was gonna try to do that but i didnt know how too

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Originally Posted by mikedudley17

**In robotic voice***New Honda Fit, Fit is NO!**

Did i do that right? lol

Like i did state earlier, their motors are a smidgen smaller and they are only makin smidgen less power than us. But, nice to know some official stats for real. I deem this-good find!

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yea .1 bigger, but think how old are engine design is compared to theirs

The 5cyl in the rabbit dates back to the audi quattro sport... if it works, it works.

i cant wait to see what the supposed new 1.6L will do....they should make an aveo hybrid....i love toyotas line of hybrid, those things are so dang quiet

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i cant wait to see what the supposed new 1.6L will do....they should make an aveo hybrid....i love toyotas line of hybrid, those things are so dang quiet

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Actually, a group concerned with people safety, want to make cars louder. They argue their point because blind people, who obviously can't see the cars coming, also can't hear them now.

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Originally Posted by ontarian_frog

Actually, a group concerned with people safety, want to make cars louder. They argue their point because blind people, who obviously can't see the cars coming, also can't hear them now.

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:roll: and these people should be on the road in the first place, why? haah

when they walk, they could get hit by crossing the road. You know, it's not illegal for blind people to go out of their homes and walk.

also, you can be blind from one eye and still drive or get hit by a car from your blind side....

Anywho, I was just throwing random facts around, way off topic.

Aveo > Fit

My 06' sedan pulled 86hp with 93 ft.lbs torque on a 2008 mustang dyno

what mods?

thats interesting, most mustang dynos read the lowest out of all the types of dynos. good show

not to be the critical jerk, but id have to see some dyno sheets and know the mods (if any) for me to beleive it.

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Originally Posted by mikedudley17

from the old forum:

Joe's 2005 Chevrolet Aveo LS HB (Intake, Cat-Back, High Flow Cat) Max at 4820RPM

92.62 HP @ Wheels
99.97 Ft. Lbs Torque

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Do we have MPG ratings?

Thanks
Jason

How can the GM claim be 103 hp on a stock 2008 1.6L, when you guys are doing mods and only pulling 92hp? Mileage on car dyno'd high? Plugs old? Dirty air and fuel filter? This is based on how many dyno pulls? You guys are scaring me. No offense, but that's weak. I'm gonna run down to my local dyno shop, and give it a shot. For 100 bucks, I can get 3 pulls, and some tweaking. Good lord, that's upsetting... And I Think I saw the 09's producing 125hp, with a new formatted motor. Now I gotta go to bed with all that on my mind, gahdamnit. Those Pulstar plugs are starting to sound good right now.

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How can the GM claim be 103 hp on a stock 2008 1.6L, when you guys are doing mods and only pulling 92hp? Mileage on car dyno'd high? Plugs old? Dirty air and fuel filter? This is based on how many dyno pulls? You guys are scaring me. No offense, but that's weak. I'm gonna run down to my local dyno shop, and give it a shot. For 100 bucks, I can get 3 pulls, and some tweaking. Good lord, that's upsetting... And I Think I saw the 09's producing 125hp, with a new formatted motor. Now I gotta go to bed with all that on my mind, gahdamnit. Those Pulstar plugs are starting to sound good right now.

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:withstupid: wow you do realize that GM's claim is the hp at the crank and dynos usually read hub hp or whp, which reads lower because of various parasitic losses from the transmission

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How can the GM claim be 103 hp on a stock 2008 1.6L, when you guys are doing mods and only pulling 92hp?
For 100 bucks, I can get 3 pulls, and some tweaking.

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Uh, yeah, 103 is hp at the crank, 80-90 is whp, which has gone through transmission, axles, wheels, tires.

What are you hoping to tweak?? Honestly... unless you've installed a SAFC or adjustable cam gear or whatever, there's not much that can be done except for comparing mods, say, stock intake vs CAI/SRI.

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Originally Posted by mtlswift

Uh, yeah, 103 is hp at the crank, 80-90 is whp, which has gone through transmission, axles, wheels, tires.

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+1

you lose up to 20% power at the wheels with an automatic and up to 15% on a manual...

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Originally Posted by mtlswift

Uh, yeah, 103 is hp at the crank, 80-90 is whp, which has gone through transmission, axles, wheels, tires.

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+1

you lose up to 20% power at the wheels with an automatic and up to 15% on a manual...

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ive heard of autos losing up to 35% at the wheel thru the trans. thats y i dont drive auto.

Although the Aisin auto tranny on the Aveo is supposed to be one of the best on the market...

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Originally Posted by SGAveoGuy

How can the GM claim be 103 hp on a stock 2008 1.6L, when you guys are doing mods and only pulling 92hp? Mileage on car dyno'd high? Plugs old? Dirty air and fuel filter? This is based on how many dyno pulls? You guys are scaring me. No offense, but that's weak. I'm gonna run down to my local dyno shop, and give it a shot. For 100 bucks, I can get 3 pulls, and some tweaking. Good lord, that's upsetting... And I Think I saw the 09's producing 125hp, with a new formatted motor. Now I gotta go to bed with all that on my mind, gahdamnit. Those Pulstar plugs are starting to sound good right now.

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:withstupid: wow you do realize that GM's claim is the hp at the crank and dynos usually read hub hp or whp, which reads lower because of various parasitic losses from the transmission

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old topic but, I didn't take that into account when I read the post. I was p.o.'d. If calculations are right, there's only avg. 10% loss in the dyno readings, which is good, considering a possible 35% that 'could be' lost. Thanks for clearing that up.

im going to bring this back to life, the dyno numbers are interesting, has anyone else put their aveo on the dyno?