HID's

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Re: HID's

Postby Reddemonx92 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:37 pm

this all goes back to the saying
some rules are ment to be broken


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Re: HID's

Postby thehunterooo » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:46 pm

lol ive never met a cop that would care about HID's, but they do care about strobes, and red and blue neon for that matter, or having some gay JDM color headlights :lol:
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Re: HID's

Postby Reddemonx92 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:30 pm

lol better watch out then hunter
better not pass any cops. they might stop you for how much JDM stuff you put on your car.

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Re: HID's

Postby thehunterooo » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:46 pm

Reddemonx92 wrote:lol better watch out then hunter
better not pass any cops. they might stop you for how much JDM stuff you put on your car.


yup and none of it is DOT approved!!!!! i would be safe in japan though
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Re: HID's

Postby WOLFMAN AK907 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:50 pm

HitecRednec wrote:I guess I stand corrected. The information posted above seems to be accurate. I do believe a vehicle owner could however beat a case in court provided they have a good attorney. While ignorance to the law is by no means a defense that would win, a direct reference to one's Local and State law would provide enough of a basis for pleading the defendant made honest and prudent effort to research State and Local law which neglected to mention by design or other characteristics the means by which the HID lighting source is classified as Prohibited.
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Yeah, we get pulled over for a lot of lighting modifications up here. What's funny though is that I get pulled over for my underbody lights on my car, but my blue Kenworth Semi has blue underbody all over it and blue LED strips between the sleeper cab and headache rack never gets pulled over when I run around town. It also has HID's. I think if your lights are obnoxous and attract attention or distract other drivers is when you would get in trouble. I have few friends that are cops and car enthusiasts and most of the cops on the force will tell you that if you present yourself in a knowledgable manor when in a traffic stop for a mod you will most likely be let go. I was pulled over for smoked taillights a while ago on my ford and the officer was going to cite me saying my brake lights were not visible. I told him they were smoked with an incandescent "tinted clear" and the bulbs were replaced with 30LED bulbs. I informed him that my taillights not only complied with lighting regulations, but exceeded the 500ft. requirement for taillight visibility. He actually got out his 100ft. tape measure on the side of the road and walked back 500ft. He was surprised, and sent me on my way...no ticket.
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Re: HID's

Postby thehunterooo » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:59 am

WOLFMAN AK907 wrote:
HitecRednec wrote:I guess I stand corrected. The information posted above seems to be accurate. I do believe a vehicle owner could however beat a case in court provided they have a good attorney. While ignorance to the law is by no means a defense that would win, a direct reference to one's Local and State law would provide enough of a basis for pleading the defendant made honest and prudent effort to research State and Local law which neglected to mention by design or other characteristics the means by which the HID lighting source is classified as Prohibited.
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Yeah, we get pulled over for a lot of lighting modifications up here. What's funny though is that I get pulled over for my underbody lights on my car, but my blue Kenworth Semi has blue underbody all over it and blue LED strips between the sleeper cab and headache rack never gets pulled over when I run around town. It also has HID's. I think if your lights are obnoxous and attract attention or distract other drivers is when you would get in trouble. I have few friends that are cops and car enthusiasts and most of the cops on the force will tell you that if you present yourself in a knowledgable manor when in a traffic stop for a mod you will most likely be let go. I was pulled over for smoked taillights a while ago on my ford and the officer was going to cite me saying my brake lights were not visible. I told him they were smoked with an incandescent "tinted clear" and the bulbs were replaced with 30LED bulbs. I informed him that my taillights not only complied with lighting regulations, but exceeded the 500ft. requirement for taillight visibility. He actually got out his 100ft. tape measure on the side of the road and walked back 500ft. He was surprised, and sent me on my way...no ticket.



nice, thn akfully we dont have cops like that down here, lol they love my car here :D
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Re: HID's

Postby Sublimed Aveo » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:36 am

I never knew that there was green HIDs! Im definitely getting some 30,000's now
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Re: HID's

Postby WOLFMAN AK907 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:14 pm

Sublimed Aveo wrote:I never knew that there was green HIDs! Im definitely getting some 30,000's now

Yep, they're like 15 bucks extra.
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Re: HID's

Postby crazyeve » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:26 am

sweet thank you.. made a copy for next time..
HitecRednec wrote:I live in FL, USA and if some Idiot in Ocala thinks he's a know it all by stating HID's are not legal then let him be the fool he appears to be as I have been told and I have confirmed there is no law in the FL Books regarding HID's in the state of Florida and the only reference to limitations of colors is to the use of RED, BLUE and AMBER. There is also no reference to any law restricting the use of Strobe Lights, however they should be used responsibly.

Please provide me with any FL State Statute you feel I need to look at or further research.

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316.2397 Certain lights prohibited; exceptions.--

(1) No person shall drive or move or cause to be moved any vehicle or equipment upon any highway within this state with any lamp or device thereon showing or displaying a red or blue light visible from directly in front thereof except for certain vehicles hereinafter provided.

(2) It is expressly prohibited for any vehicle or equipment, except police vehicles, to show or display blue lights. However, vehicles owned, operated, or leased by the Department of Corrections or any county correctional agency may show or display blue lights when responding to emergencies.

(3) Vehicles of the fire department and fire patrol, including vehicles of volunteer firefighters as permitted under s. 316.2398, vehicles of medical staff physicians or technicians of medical facilities licensed by the state as authorized under s. 316.2398, ambulances as authorized under this chapter, and buses and taxicabs as authorized under s. 316.2399 are permitted to show or display red lights. Vehicles of the fire department, fire patrol, police vehicles, and such ambulances and emergency vehicles of municipal and county departments, public service corporations operated by private corporations, the Department of Environmental Protection, the Department of Transportation, the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, and the Department of Corrections as are designated or authorized by their respective department or the chief of police of an incorporated city or any sheriff of any county are hereby authorized to operate emergency lights and sirens in an emergency. Wreckers, mosquito control fog and spray vehicles, and emergency vehicles of governmental departments or public service corporations may show or display amber lights when in actual operation or when a hazard exists provided they are not used going to and from the scene of operation or hazard without specific authorization of a law enforcement officer or law enforcement agency. Wreckers must use amber rotating or flashing lights while performing recoveries and loading on the roadside day or night, and may use such lights while towing a vehicle on wheel lifts, slings, or under reach if the operator of the wrecker deems such lights necessary. A flatbed, car carrier, or rollback may not use amber rotating or flashing lights when hauling a vehicle on the bed unless it creates a hazard to other motorists because of protruding objects. Further, escort vehicles may show or display amber lights when in the actual process of escorting overdimensioned equipment, material, or buildings as authorized by law. Vehicles owned or leased by private security agencies may show or display green and amber lights, with either color being no greater than 50 percent of the lights displayed, while the security personnel are engaged in security duties on private or public property.

(4) Road or street maintenance equipment, road or street maintenance vehicles, road service vehicles, refuse collection vehicles, petroleum tankers, and mail carrier vehicles may show or display amber lights when in operation or a hazard exists.

(5) Road maintenance and construction equipment and vehicles may display flashing white lights or flashing white strobe lights when in operation and where a hazard exists. Additionally, school buses and vehicles that are used to transport farm workers may display flashing white strobe lights.

(6) All lighting equipment heretofore referred to shall meet all requirements as set forth in s. 316.241.

(7) Flashing lights are prohibited on vehicles except as a means of indicating a right or left turn, to change lanes, or to indicate that the vehicle is lawfully stopped or disabled upon the highway or except that the lamps authorized in subsections (1), (2), (3), (4), and (9) and s. 316.235(5) are permitted to flash.

(8) Subsections (1) and (7) do not apply to police, fire, or authorized emergency vehicles while in the performance of their necessary duties.

(9) Flashing red lights may be used by emergency response vehicles of the Department of Environmental Protection and the Department of Health when responding to an emergency in the line of duty.

(10) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

History.--s. 1, ch. 71-135; ss. 1, 23, ch. 76-31; s. 2, ch. 80-176; s. 1, ch. 84-49; s. 4, ch. 86-23; s. 1, ch. 87-157; s. 1, ch. 89-49; s. 58, ch. 93-164; s. 23, ch. 94-306; s. 900, ch. 95-148; s. 17, ch. 96-263; s. 2, ch. 96-312; s. 7, ch. 97-280; s. 17, ch. 97-300; s. 192, ch. 99-248; s. 134, ch. 2002-20; s. 3, ch. 2002-217; s. 1, ch. 2004-20; s. 1, ch. 2007-52; s. 2, ch. 2007-210; s. 1, ch. 2009-220.

Note.--Former s. 316.223.

316.2398 Display or use of red warning signals; motor vehicles of volunteer firefighters or medical staff.--

(1) A privately owned vehicle belonging to an active firefighter member of a regularly organized volunteer firefighting company or association, while en route to the fire station for the purpose of proceeding to the scene of a fire or other emergency or while en route to the scene of a fire or other emergency in the line of duty as an active firefighter member of a regularly organized firefighting company or association, or a privately owned vehicle belonging to a medical staff physician or technician of a medical facility licensed by the state, while responding to an emergency in the line of duty, may display or use red warning signals visible from the front and from the rear of such vehicle, subject to the following restrictions and conditions:

(a) No more than two red warning signals may be displayed.

(b) No inscription of any kind may appear across the face of the lens of the red warning signal.

(c) In order for an active volunteer firefighter to display such red warning signals on his or her vehicle, the volunteer firefighter must first secure a written permit from the chief executive officers of the firefighting organization to use the red warning signals, and this permit must be carried by the volunteer firefighter at all times while the red warning signals are displayed.

(2) It is unlawful for any person who is not an active firefighter member of a regularly organized volunteer firefighting company or association or a physician or technician of the medical staff of a medical facility licensed by the state to display on any motor vehicle owned by him or her, at any time, any red warning signals as described in subsection (1).

(3) It is unlawful for an active volunteer firefighter to operate any red warning signals as authorized in subsection (1), except while en route to the fire station for the purpose of proceeding to the scene of a fire or other emergency, or while at or en route to the scene of a fire or other emergency, in the line of duty.

(4) It is unlawful for a physician or technician of the medical staff of a medical facility to operate any red warning signals as authorized in subsection (1), except when responding to an emergency in the line of duty.

(5) A violation of this section is a nonmoving violation, punishable as provided in chapter 318. In addition, any volunteer firefighter shall be dismissed from membership in the firefighting organization by the chief executive officers thereof.

History.--s. 1, ch. 71-135; s. 1, ch. 76-31; s. 1, ch. 77-454; s. 3, ch. 80-176; s. 2, ch. 87-157; s. 324, ch. 95-148; s. 31, ch. 96-350; s. 1, ch. 2003-165.

Note.--Former s. 316.292.

316.2399 Special warning lights for buses or taxicabs.--The provisions of s. 316.2397(7) to the contrary notwithstanding, a bus or taxicab may be equipped with two flashing devices for the purpose of warning the operators of other vehicles and law enforcement agents that an emergency situation exists within the bus or taxicab. Such devices shall be capable of activation by the operator of the bus or taxicab and shall be of a type approved by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. Such devices shall be mounted one at the front and one at the rear of the bus or taxicab and shall display flashing red lights which shine on the roadway under the vehicle. A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

History.--s. 2, ch. 89-49; s. 91, ch. 99-13; s. 193, ch. 99-248.

316.240 Standards for lights on highway maintenance and service equipment.--

(1) The Department of Transportation shall adopt standards and specifications applicable to headlamps, clearance lamps, and identification and other lamps on highway maintenance and service equipment when operated on state roads and county road system of this state in lieu of the lamps otherwise required on motor vehicles by this chapter. Such standards and specifications may permit the use of flashing lights for purposes of identification on highway maintenance and service equipment when in service upon the highways. The standards and specifications for lamps referred to in this section shall correlate with, and as far as possible conform with, those approved by the American Association of State Highway Officials.

(2) It is unlawful to operate any highway maintenance and service equipment on any highway as described heretofore unless the lamps thereon comply with and are lighted when and as required by the standards and specifications adopted as provided in this section.

(3) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

History.--s. 1, ch. 71-135; s. 194, ch. 99-248.

316.241 Selling or using lamps or equipment.--

(1) No person shall have for sale, sell or offer for sale for use upon or as a part of the equipment of a motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, or pole trailer or use upon any such vehicle any headlamp, auxiliary or fog lamp, rear lamp, signal lamp, or reflector, which reflector is required hereunder, or parts of any of the foregoing, which tend to change the original design or performance, unless of a type which has been submitted to the department and approved. The foregoing provisions of this section shall not apply to equipment in actual use when this section is adopted or replacement parts therefor.

(2) No person shall have for sale, sell, or offer for sale for use upon or as a part of the equipment of a motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, or pole trailer any lamp or device mentioned in this section which has been approved by the department unless such lamp or device bears thereon the trademark or name under which it is approved so as to be legible when installed.

(3) No person shall use upon any motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, or pole trailer any lamps mentioned in this section unless said lamps are mounted, adjusted, and aimed in accordance with instructions of the department.

(4) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.

History.--s. 1, ch. 71-135; s. 195, ch. 99-248.

316.242 Revocation of certificate of approval on lighting devices.--

(1) When the department has reason to believe that an approved lighting device as being sold commercially does not comply with the requirements of this chapter, it may, after giving 30 days' previous notice to the person holding the certificate of approval for such device in this state, conduct a hearing upon the question of compliance of the approved device. After the hearing the department shall determine whether the approved device meets the requirements of this chapter. If the device does not meet the requirements of this chapter it shall give notice to the person holding the certificate of approval for such device in this state.

(2) If at the expiration of 90 days after such notice the person holding the certificate of approval for the device has failed to satisfy the department that the approved device as thereafter to be sold meets the requirements of this chapter, the department shall suspend or revoke the approval issued therefor until or unless such device is resubmitted to and retested by an authorized testing agency and is found to meet the requirements of this chapter, and may require that all said devices sold since the notification following the hearing be replaced with devices that do comply with the requirements of this chapter. The department may at the time of the retest purchase in the open market and submit to the testing agency one or more sets of such approved devices, and if the device upon retest fails to meet the requirements of this chapter, the department may refuse to renew the certificate of approval of such device.

History.--s. 1, ch. 71-135.

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Re: HID's

Postby crazyeve » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:46 am

I heard that only new vehicles that come with the hid light kits are legal...
HitecRednec wrote:I guess I stand corrected. The information posted above seems to be accurate. I do believe a vehicle owner could however beat a case in court provided they have a good attorney. While ignorance to the law is by no means a defense that would win, a direct reference to one's Local and State law would provide enough of a basis for pleading the defendant made honest and prudent effort to research State and Local law which neglected to mention by design or other characteristics the means by which the HID lighting source is classified as Prohibited.

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