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      08 Aveo5 running rough (update with Torque app test results)

      45k miles regular scheduled maintenance.

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      Mode $06 report generated by Torque for Android
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      Vehicle VIN: Not present
      Vehicle Manufacturer: Unknown
      Vehicle Calibration ID: Not present

      Test report:
      ------------------
      MID:$01 TID:$05
      Rich to Lean sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 140ms Min: 0ms
      Test result value: 46ms
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$06
      Lean to Rich sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 140ms Min: 0ms
      Test result value: 42ms
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$81
      - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 65,535Changes Min: 60Changes
      Test result value: 226Changes
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$82
      - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 65,535Changes Min: 60Changes
      Test result value: 223Changes
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$83
      - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 2.99996Ratio Min: 0.39843Ratio
      Test result value: 1.09374Ratio
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$02 TID:$05
      Rich to Lean sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
      Max: 400ms Min: 0ms
      Test result value: 89ms
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$02 TID:$06
      Lean to Rich sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
      Test incomplete or dependant test failed
      --
      MID:$02 TID:$bc
      - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
      Max: 25,000ms Min: 0ms
      Test result value: 7,687ms
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$21 TID:$a1
      - Catalyst Monitor Bank 1
      Max: 65,535ms Min: 2,000ms
      Test result value: 5,000ms
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$31 TID:$91
      - EGR Monitor Bank 1
      Max: 0kPa Min: -32.768kPa
      Test result value: -2kPa
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$39 TID:$8f
      -
      Max: 8,191.75Pa Min: 2,540.5Pa
      Test result value: 2,544.75Pa
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$3b TID:$84
      - EVAP Monitor (0.090")
      Max: 60Pa/s Min: 0Pa/s
      Test result value: 0Pa/s
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$3c TID:$82
      - EVAP Monitor (0.040")
      Max: 20.75Pa/s Min: 0Pa/s
      Test result value: 0Pa/s
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$3d TID:$80
      - EVAP Monitor (0.020")
      Max: 2,988.75Pa Min: -8,192Pa
      Test result value: 629.75Pa
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$3d TID:$81
      - EVAP Monitor (0.020")
      Max: 679.75Pa Min: -8,192Pa
      Test result value: 61.25Pa
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$41 TID:$b1
      - O2 Heater Monitor Bank 1 - Sensor 1
      Max: 65.535A Min: 0.087A
      Test result value: 0.57A
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$42 TID:$b1
      - O2 Heater Monitor Bank 1 - Sensor 2
      Max: 65.535A Min: 0.093A
      Test result value: 0.542A
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$a2 TID:$0b
      EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 1 Data
      Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
      Test result value: 1Count
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$a2 TID:$0c
      Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 1 Data
      Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
      Test result value: 0Count
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$a3 TID:$0b
      EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 2 Data
      Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
      Test result value: 1Count
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$a3 TID:$0c
      Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 2 Data
      Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
      Test result value: 0Count
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$a4 TID:$0b
      EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 3 Data
      Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
      Test result value: 1Count
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$a4 TID:$0c
      Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 3 Data
      Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
      Test result value: 1Count
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$a5 TID:$0b
      EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 4 Data
      Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
      Test result value: 1Count
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$a5 TID:$0c
      Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 4 Data
      Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
      Test result value: 0Count
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$05
      Rich to Lean sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 140ms Min: 0ms
      Test result value: 46ms
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$06
      Lean to Rich sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 140ms Min: 0ms
      Test result value: 42ms
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$81
      - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 65,535Changes Min: 60Changes
      Test result value: 226Changes
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$82
      - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 65,535Changes Min: 60Changes
      Test result value: 223Changes
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$83
      - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 2.99996Ratio Min: 0.39843Ratio
      Test result value: 1.09374Ratio
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$02 TID:$05
      Rich to Lean sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
      Max: 400ms Min: 0ms
      Test result value: 89ms
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$02 TID:$06
      Lean to Rich sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
      Test incomplete or dependant test failed
      --
      MID:$02 TID:$bc
      - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
      Max: 25,000ms Min: 0ms
      Test result value: 7,687ms
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$05
      Rich to Lean sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 140ms Min: 0ms
      Test result value: 46ms
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$06
      Lean to Rich sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 140ms Min: 0ms
      Test result value: 42ms
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$81
      - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 65,535Changes Min: 60Changes
      Test result value: 226Changes
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$82
      - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 65,535Changes Min: 60Changes
      Test result value: 223Changes
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$01 TID:$83
      - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
      Max: 2.99996Ratio Min: 0.39843Ratio
      Test result value: 1.09374Ratio
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$02 TID:$05
      Rich to Lean sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
      Max: 400ms Min: 0ms
      Test result value: 89ms
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$02 TID:$06
      Lean to Rich sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
      Test incomplete or dependant test failed
      --
      MID:$02 TID:$bc
      - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
      Max: 25,000ms Min: 0ms
      Test result value: 7,687ms
      PASS
      ----


      End of report.



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      Too much data there to plow through. From the realtime datastream monitor, the fuel trims should be bouncing between +10 and -10, hopefully most between +5 and -5. O2 sensor 1 should be moving up and down from around .1V to .9V.
      What is the MAP sensor reading at warm idle, and is that value fairly steady? What is the TPS % reading at idle?

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      At warm idle the intake manifold pressure is really steady at 4.35 psi. occasionally it might hit 4.5. TPS avg is 12.9%. Hoppefully im reading the right sensors. Also vacuum holds at 19.5 in/hg.

      o2 1 is within that .1v-.9v. fuel trim is bouncy

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      that low valley happens occasionally.
      Last edited by boatdink; 02-08-2017 at 09:01 PM. Reason: more info

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      All of those numbers sound fine, and are saying that there's no vacuum leak or any other significant engine issue for that matter. Most of what you've mentioned is related to the exhaust, so try tapping on the cat with a rubber mallet, in order to find out if there's anything loose and rattling around inside of it.

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      IMHO intake manifold pressure is too low. It should be around 5psi (35kPa) @ 13% TPS.

      Plus you have:

      MID:$02 TID:$06
      Lean to Rich sensor switch time(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
      Test incomplete or dependant test failed

      So it could be a vacuum leak or o2 sensor, and please change the spark plugs.

      MID:$a4 TID:$0c
      Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 3 Data
      Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
      Test result value: 1Count
      PASS
      ----
      MID:$a5 TID:$0b
      EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 4 Data
      Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
      Test result value: 1Count
      PASS

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      Spark plugs were changed the night before I did the test. It ran a little better after, but it still runs funky. I used Autolite Iridium XP with .044 gap. I was wondering about the misfire data too. I'm tearing apart the intake today and looking at the vacuum hoses. The guy/girl who originally owned it must've let it sit for a long time, as it only had 44k when I bought it December 2016. What are the major issues Aveo owners come across when their car sits for a while?

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      Outside of bad fluids gas, oil etc... Id say rotors from light rust and rubbers that deteriorate but a year doesn't seem like much on the dry rot aspect of things. As for the misfires if you cleared it and they came back I suggest taking the vanity cover off and looking at the wires and coils and listening for arcs at night, maybe have a buddy rev the engine for good measure.




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